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From "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <>
Subject Re: PROPOSAL: New name for combined SOAP implementation project
Date Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:54:08 GMT
To me, the reason for changing the name is to accomodate the merging
of the development communities. While we are sort of one community,
the reality is that there are people active on soap-dev who are not
on axis-dev and vice versa. Similar the WASP developers have an
identity which they may or may not want to combine under the axis
name (I don't speak for them).

Changing the name from axis to foo would be a way to welcome all
three groups of participants to one joint community. If the joint
community is named according to one of the constituent communities
then the communal feeling is less. IMO, of course.

So, its for mushy reasons like that. If others (from soap-dev
and wasp developers) feel its ok to call the resulting thing axis
then I may not object. However, to me that would add confusion too
as the intent is to grow the combined project beyond being just a
soap impl and axis is scoped as a soap implementation.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Davis" <>
To: <>
Cc: "Axis Development List" <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: New name for combined SOAP implementation project

> Just wondering - what's wrong with just keeping "Axis"?  Its already
> a pretty generic name.
> -Dug
> "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <> on 11/28/2001 08:09:58 PM
> Please respond to
> To:   "Apache SOAP" <>, "Axis Development List"
>       <>
> cc:
> Subject:  PROPOSAL: New name for combined SOAP implementation project
> In recent weeks there was a discussion on
> about combining the SOAP implementation efforts in Apache into
> one project. Longer term, other Web services efforts may also be
> added to this same combined project. The main motivation for
> combining these efforts is to make the community stronger by
> combining the now separated communities.
> We have 3 separate SOAP implementations at hand (listed in historical
> order):
>     - Apache SOAP
>     - Apache Axis
>     - WASP - a contribution from Systinet that's yet to be committed
> The proposal is to combine the three to form one SOAP implementation
> project at Apache. Apache SOAP is now the historical implementation
> and Axis is intended to be a replacement for it. WASP should be used
> in evolving Axis to basically take the best of both and make the next
> major rewrite of Apache's SOAP implementation.
> So, in order to get moving on this we have to agree on a name for the
> combined SOAP implementation project. What I suggest is that we come
> up with a few suggestions and then have a vote.
> To start the process I propose the name "ceylon" .. it comes from
> a random chat that Dims and I had during some of the preparation
> for this note! Let's spend a few days coming up with candidate
> names and then narrow down a list and call a vote.
> Bye,
> Sanjiva.

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