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From "Doug Davis" <>
Subject RE: [GUMP] Function Test Failure - Axis
Date Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:38:02 GMT
Isn't this what the XXX symbol stuff is for??

Rob Jellinghaus <> on 06/21/2001 12:31:41 PM

Please respond to

Subject:  RE: [GUMP] Function Test Failure - Axis

At 09:29 AM 6/21/2001 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote:
>Rob Jellinghaus wrote:
>> I tend to prefer this (fix the underlying problem in the test) to:
>So, that's why you commented out doTestIBM() instead of debugging the

Hmm.  Oops.  You're right that doTestIBM() could have been fixed by making
it *able to handle a missing server*.  Hadn't thought of that.
 I'd thought, "if is offline, it means a test failure, which
is bogus because it's not our code that's failing."  Really a missing server should not result in a test failure.

It still rubs me the wrong way to have a test that may or may not work
completely, due to external (uncontrolled) factors... it'd be better to
have something like a *simulated* server, so we could reliably
test the " available" case *and* the " unavailable"
case.  Otherwise, we wind up with a test that usually tests "
available", but only when is offline tests "
unavailable".  And if we break failure handling in some way, we only find
out about it when is offline *and* someone happens to run the
test at that moment.  Non-determinism in testing... blah!


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