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From John Hawkins <HAWKI...@uk.ibm.com>
Subject Re: 1.4 looks big !
Date Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:19:59 GMT




As a bell thankyou :-)


John Hawkins




                                                                           
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No, WS-Sec is an add-on - just like in Axis/Java - and not a part
of Axis/C++. So all that's proposed is to *make it possible* to
write that add-on.

Still unclear?

Sanjiva.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hawkins" <HAWKINSJ@uk.ibm.com>
To: "Apache AXIS C Developers List" <axis-c-dev@ws.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: 1.4 looks big !


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> Hello Farhaan,
>
> Maybe there has been some confusion as to what I meant when I re-did the
> WIKI pages into their current format. I meant that anything under the 1.4
> and 1.5 list was actually being entirely implemented and available to
users
> - i.e. give them a heads up so they can plan their use of Axis (and
> potentially reprioritise us?)
>
> So in terms of the ability to say "we support WS-Security in 1.4" are we
> going to be able to?
>
> >From your response ->
>
>  "It does not mean that we are implementing them for 1.4"
>
> It appears we are not?
>
> John Hawkins
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>              "Farhaan
>              Mohideen"
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> Hi Samisa;
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> As I mentioned we have not updated JIRA with all the requirements, so it
is
> 212 plus more to come within the next few days.
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> Regards
> Farhaan
>
> From: Samisa Abeysinghe [mailto:samisa_abeysinghe@yahoo.com]
> Sent: 03 November 2004 12:41
> To: Apache AXIS C Developers List
> Subject: RE: 1.4 looks big !
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> Re: requirements identified by the WS-Security team and the WS-Addressing
> team ->
>
> You mean stuff like http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/AXISCPP-212. ?
>
> Samisa...
>
> Farhaan Mohideen <farhaan@opensource.lk> wrote:
>  Hi All;
>
>  I would like to explain what is meant by supporting WS-Security and
>  WS-Addressing. It does not mean that we are implementing them for 1.4.
>  There
>  are two teams at LSF working on those projects and they have specific
>  requirements for the handlers. Since Roshan has been developing the
>  handlers
>  in Axis C++ he has decided to support the requirements identified by the
>  WS-Security team and the WS-Addressing team. The support required is yet
>  to
>  be included in JIRA.
>
>  LSF folk would be working on features 11 to 16. I am definitely +1 for
>  stability yet would like to see these features implemented.
>
>  Regards
>  Farhaan
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Samisa Abeysinghe [mailto:samisa_abeysinghe@yahoo.com]
>  Sent: 03 November 2004 07:06
>  To: Apache AXIS C Developers List
>  Subject: Re: 1.4 looks big !
>
>  > I agree with John. I think we need to improve stability and
>  infastructure
>
>  > prior to adding new features.
>
>  +1 for improving stability.
>
>  Samisa...
>
>  --- Nadir Amra wrote:
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>  > John Hawkins
>  > 11/02/2004 07:00 AM
>  > Please respond to
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>  > Subject
>  > 1.4 looks big !
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>  >
>  >
>  > Hi Folks,
>  >
>  > I've just been looking at the WIKI and seen an awful lot of things in
it
>  > for 1.4.
>  > We (IBM) have some of the items covered. The following are ones I
don't
>  > know much about ->
>  >
>  > 3. Improve Fault handling - [AXISCPP-216]
>  > 6. Include file refactoring - [AXISCPP-219]
>  > 7. Create SSL implementation
>  > 10. Improve Makefiles [AXISCPP-221]
>  > 11. Prepare tutorial on Handlers and update the Architecture Guide
>  > 12. Add href/multiref support [AXISCPP-111]
>  > 13. Add Pull parser
>  > 15. Implement WS-Attachments
>  > 16. Support WS-Scurity & WS-Addressing requirements
>  >
>  >
>  > Assuming that we all agree on producing 1.4 at the end of November
then
>  > there's an awful lot of work to do here. I'm particularly worried
about
>  > the
>  > size of WS-security & WS-addressing.
>  >
>  >
>  > I have two thoughts with having a large plan -
>  > 1. I don't want us to be in the same situation as we were for 1.2 and
>  1.3
>  > of over committing and having to put back our plans. It would be
better
>  to
>  > plan fewer things and then be pleasently surprised that we can do
more,
>  > than overcommitting now?
>  >
>  > 2. If we put too much into each release then we risk being unstable
and
>  I
>  > think that we've still got a lot of problems we can sort out without
>  > adding
>  > to many new features? We haven't produced a single release yet where
>  users
>  > haven't come back with simple issues.
>  >
>  > Have we got this contained including the testing - are we being
>  realistic
>  > in saying we can do this for 1.4 or should we reschedule some of these
>  and
>  > try to split some over 1.4 and 1.5 so we improve the quality and
>  testing?
>  >
>  > any info or thoughts would be appreciated.
>  > thanks,
>  > John
>  >
>  >
>  >
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