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From "Emperor" <DarkEmpe...@gmx.net>
Subject AW: AW: Statusable
Date Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:11:39 GMT
Cryptic sounds negative... ;)

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Paul Hammant [mailto:Paul_Hammant@yahoo.com] 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 30. März 2002 07:41
> An: Avalon-Phoenix Developers List
> Betreff: Re: AW: Statusable
> 
> 
> Eung-ju,
> 
> Sorry dude.  I knew your were trading behind some cryptic 
> email address. 
> It was 'colus' of course.
> 
> - Paul
> 
> >Emperor is not me. ;-)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Hammant" <Paul_Hammant@yahoo.com>
> >To: "Avalon-Phoenix Developers List" 
> ><avalon-phoenix-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:30 PM
> >Subject: Re: AW: Statusable
> >
> >
> >>Eung-Ju,
> >>
> >>Yes that would work, but the secondary need would be to 
> buffer things 
> >>for repeated use in a management app.
> >>
> >>Maybe I'll just keep using System.out :-)  It is not a problem ...
> >>
> >>- Paul
> >>
> >>>Why not use a separate Logger to output to console? So the newbies 
> >>>wouldn't have to do anything, and you could easily disable console 
> >>>logging or redirect it to a file.
> >>>
> >>>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>>Von: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
> >>>>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. März 2002 21:37
> >>>>An: Avalon-Phoenix Developers List
> >>>>Betreff: RE: Statusable
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm +1 but as this would break logger binary compatibility it 
> >>>>requires a new release of logger, and maybe also of excalibur/ 
> >>>>framework (not exactly sure where the changes are neccessary?).
> >>>>
> >>>>So we might still need to keep writing to System.out for 
> now... you 
> >>>>volunteering to look into this? ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>Also, did Pete ever reply to the question below? Pete? He is 
> >>>>king-of-the-logkit of course, so we need his infinite 
> wisdom on this 
> >>>>:P
> >>>>
> >>>>cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>- Leo
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >>>>>Van: Paul Hammant [mailto:Paul_Hammant@yahoo.com]
> >>>>>Verzonden: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:05 PM
> >>>>>Aan: Avalon-Phoenix Developers List
> >>>>>Onderwerp: Re: Statusable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think this is worth re-opening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Reason?  Well we are about to have SAR files 
> downloadable from the 
> >>>>>website and drop into an arbitary Phoneix.  In terms of 
> the "five 
> >>>>>second test", it would be handy if the blocks could offer
> >>>>>
> >>>>some advice
> >>>>
> >>>>>after start().
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For example if a product uses Jo! it may want to say.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   "HTTP Service mounted on port 8080"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At the moment I find myself writing to System.out to help
> >>>>>
> >>>>the newbie
> >>>>
> >>>>>know what they should do after launching Phoenix with an 
> app.  It 
> >>>>>would be nice if there were some controlled way of output
> >>>>>
> >>>>such status
> >>>>
> >>>>>info for a block.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The original idea was to have Statusable
> >>>>>
> >
> >>>>setStatus(String msg)  ],
> >>>>
> >>>>>but that was rightly shot down as there is much overlap
> >>>>>
> >>>>with Logger.
> >>>>
> >>>>>If Logger were to have a new method for setting of status (or
> >>>>>priority) and the status, as well as being output to the
> >>>>>
> >>>>log target,
> >>>>
> >>>>>were buffered by Phoenix for other use :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) later retrieval by a management console, webapp or GUI.
> >>>>> 2) after system startup, a once only outputting of 
> statii to the 
> >>>>>console (for the newbie)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>- Paul
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Emperor is making the same point about similarities with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>Logging.  I
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>am not so sure there is that overlap with the current
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>Logger.class.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>If it had status(String st); as a method I might think it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>could do
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>the job.  I am not sure how we would stand on that 
> addition given 
> >>>>>>>the recent backwards-compatability flamewars ;-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>How about extending the Priority by adding a STATUS 
> level and do 
> >>>>>>logger.log(XXXPriority.STATUS, message)? True, Priority is final
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>but I don't
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>see any reason why it is like that. Why would you use
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>logger.log(..) method
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>then?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mircea
> >>>>>>
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