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From "Bennett, Timothy (JIS/Applications)" <TimothyBenn...@jis.nashville.org>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] End the drama
Date Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:00:24 GMT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:18 PM
> To: Avalon Developers List
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] End the drama
> 
> First off - there is plenty of room for enhancing existing 
> docs that are presented as part fo the mainstream Avalon 
> specification - for example - clearly detailing the artifact 
> version (e.g. framework-api 4.1.3, framework-api 4.1.5, 
> framework-api 4.2.0, avalon-meta-api, 1.1.1, etc.). 

Agreed.

> However, irrespective of the technical integrity of this 
> approach - it seems to me that some people also want an 
> off-ramp.  I.e. a doc entry point to avalon-framework 4.1 
> that presents the framework without reference to the things 
> like meta, javadoc tags, injection semantics and so on.  Both 
> are achievable without compromising Avalon aims and 
> objectives.

I also believe this, and my hope is that it will satisfy both the Avalon
traditionalists and the avant-garde, by clearly preserving the Avalon
dependency of legacy containers and their customer/developer/client base,
and by providing a launching point for an attempt to standardize Avalon
component and container development.

> There are also really interesting things we can 
> do automatically generate documentation covering the full 
> suite.  These and other options can be pursued if the drama 
> goes away. The alternative approach of demands for changes 
> here on this list and on the PMC are not sustainable 
> propositions simply because the members of this community 
> would not be acting in the interest of the community but 
> would instead simply be responding with actions aimed at 
> reducing the noise level.
> 

I've got a different idea.  Why don't we stop using words like *drama* and
*noise level* and adopt a different spirit here.  Honoring the Avalon
foundation laid by the traditionalists is a good and right thing, and
getting their blessing for the future is also important.  Making changes to
how we present things in order to honor the past and get a blessing on the
future is not a waste of effort, but a cornerstone towards future success
IMO.  

That being said... If we cannot get the blessing of the future no matter
what we do (short of maintaining the Avalon status quo), then it does become
mere noise and drama, and no one get honored or blessed.  But I don't
believe that.  I would like to believe no one loses in this scenario...

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