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From Shash Chatterjee <sh...@badfw.org>
Subject Re: First IRC Meeting concluded
Date Thu, 08 Apr 2004 02:12:28 GMT

All,

> The >2hour meeting has been finished and the log is now available at;
> http://www.apache.org/~niclas/irc/2004-04-07.070710.txt
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas
> 
> P.S. The log has a 'non-time' format for a while, since I was kicked for 
> 'typing too much' and thanks to those who sent me the missing piece.
> 

It was interesting to read the discussion here.  I fully understand the 
need of the Avalon developer community to focus on a single container 
implementation (believe you me, I truly understand how scarce OSS 
developer resources are).  Having said that, it is too simplistic to 
think that Fortress can simply be moved out of the Avalon repository and 
that is all current users of Fortress will care about.  What is left 
unsaid is the fate of the Avalon frmaework interfaces.  If indeed 
Fortress is moved out, will Avalon Framework be left (relatively) 
untouched so two (or more) containers: Fortress, outside of Avalon, and 
Merlin, within Avalon, can be written to the same interfaces?  I have a 
feeling that once Fortress is out of the way, not to speak of Plexus, 
Jcontainer, Loom, etc., Merlin will have a disproportionate influence on 
how the framework evolves.  Should it not be that the interface drives 
the implementations?  I think the way to guarantee that would be to 
split the Framework and any implementations into completely separate 
projects.

If on the other hand, there will always be one interface and one 
implementation, then why bother with the interface/impl. split?


Shash


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