Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 68022 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 06:37:19 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 06:37:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 86927 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2004 06:36:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 86881 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2004 06:36:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@avalon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Avalon Developers List" Reply-To: "Avalon Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 86867 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2004 06:36:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lapgp.otego.com) (80.219.23.251) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 06:36:55 -0000 Received: from apache.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lapgp.otego.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9B530273 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:37:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3FFA5799.6030907@apache.org> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 07:37:13 +0100 From: Giacomo Pati User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Avalon Developers List Subject: Re: Where do you want to go? References: <3FF9B18A.5000102@apache.org> <3FF9C491.2060800@apache.org> <3FFA2800.4070209@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <3FFA2800.4070209@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Stephen McConnell wrote: > Giacomo Pati wrote: > >> Concerning Merlin I once had the impression that some of the feature >> it offers are cool (i.e. default configurations aka profiles IIRC) but >> others aren't that much (i.e. security). ATM I'm not in need for a >> standalone container as most of my server apps are running with >> Phoenix' last version much better because it has JMX and that's much >> more important to me than other features Merlin offers. Looking at the >> current commit rate of the development it will take month until I will >> suggest my customers to migrate from Phoenix to Merlin because of its >> endless refactoring cycles (admittedly I might be totally wrong but >> this is the impression it gives me). > > > Giacomo: > > Relative to the client contract - Merlin is rock solid. Sure, client contracts == interfaces/APIs, but this was not the issue here. > As far as commit messages are concerned, please take into consideration > (a) commits on implementation improvements, (b) commits related to > sub-system relocation (i.e. system moving out of merlin and into avalon > space such as avalon-meta, avalon-utilities, and avalon-repository and > the resulting refactoring withing the merlin system implementation), and > (c) commits on the 3.4 branch which deal with meta-model optimization > and do not impact the client contract. Stephen, what should that tell me: You spread the refactoring not only to the core and sub-system but also onto meta, repo, util, etc? Du you think you can convince me to change oppinion with this comment? Cheers -- Giacomo Pati Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@avalon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@avalon.apache.org