Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 79627 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2003 12:11:00 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2003 12:11:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 20741 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2003 12:10:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 20626 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2003 12:10:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@avalon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Avalon Developers List" Reply-To: "Avalon Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 20602 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2003 12:10:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO f2.hedhman.org) (203.121.47.133) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2003 12:10:56 -0000 Received: from f2.hedhman.org (f2.hedhman.org [127.0.0.1]) by f2.hedhman.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hBGCATM2028534 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:10:39 +0800 From: Niclas Hedhman Organization: Private To: "Avalon Developers List" Subject: Re: JSR 77 and JSR 88 support in avalon Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 20:10:28 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200312162010.28296.niclas@hedhman.org> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tuesday 16 December 2003 19:24, Leo Simons wrote: > IMHO, that is *many* steps back from what avalon provides. +1 > (1) this is so ugly my eyes nearly pop! Why is the component (EJB) > responsible for creation of the context? Why is there some custom naming > protocol for navigating that context? Why does it need to know about > remoting/homing? Why is it responsible for creating the local stub? Why > does it need to worry about what domain it is in? Because it is EJB! And EJB HAS a past in vastly worse container systems pre-dating Java, YHSHY (You haven't seen hell yet.) > == Why not do this with avalon? == +1 > Several years and dozens of specifications later, the EJB landscape is > still the horrible, messy, big ball of mud that is the cause of > programmer nightmare throughout the world. EJB sucks, and JSR 77 is no > different. Pronto! Niclas --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@avalon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@avalon.apache.org