Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75423 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 16:13:34 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 16:13:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26772 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2003 16:13:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-avalon-dev-archive@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 26621 invoked by uid 500); 3 Nov 2003 16:13:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@avalon.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Avalon Developers List" Reply-To: "Avalon Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@avalon.apache.org Received: (qmail 26607 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2003 16:13:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO main.gmane.org) (80.91.224.249) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Nov 2003 16:13:26 -0000 Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGhKa-0000PG-00 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:13:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@avalon.apache.org Received: from sea.gmane.org ([80.91.224.252]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGhKZ-0000P8-00 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:13:27 +0100 Received: from news by sea.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGhKZ-0006k4-00 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:13:27 +0100 From: Leo Simons Subject: Re: [Avalon.Net] VS.Net implications Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:13:23 +0100 Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <003701c3a0d8$6baa0330$a22c62c8@keldorfortress> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <003701c3a0d8$6baa0330$a22c62c8@keldorfortress> Sender: news X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N hammett wrote: > Some guy from the Java side said that MS included a > statement in license agreement for VS.Net beta that read "VS.Net should not > be used for development of Open source projects". That's old news, actually. Did some searching... from http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,877112,00.asp: "OPEN SOURCE: Recipient warrants that (a) an Application will not incorporate, be combined or distributed with Publicly Available Software in whole or in part, and (b) Recipient will not use Publicly Available Software in the development of any part of such Application in a manner that may subject the Redistributables or derivative thereof, in whole or in part, to all or part of the license obligations of any Publicly Available Software. "Publicly Available Software" means each of (i) any software that contains, or is derived in any manner (in whole or in part) from, any software that is distributed as free software, open source software (e.g. Linux) or similar licensing or distribution models; and (ii) any software that requires as a condition of use, modification and/or distribution of such software that such software or other software incorporated into, derived from or distributed with such software (a) be disclosed or distributed in source code form; (b) be licensed for the purpose of making derivative works; or (c) be redistributable without charge. Publicly Available Software includes, without limitation, software licensed or distributed under any of the following licenses or distribution models, or licenses or distribution models similar to any of the following: (a) GNU's General Public License (GPL) or Lesser/Library GPL (LGPL), (b) The Artistic License (e.g., PERL), (c) the Mozilla Public License, (d) the Netscape Public License, (e) the Sun Community Source License (SCSL), (f) the Sun Industry Source License (SISL), and (g) the Apache Server license. " In other words, open source and Visual Studio are, according to this section of the EULA, totally and fully incompatible to just about the maximum extent possible. BUT...this section is not in the eula for VS.Net 2003. I don't think it ever made it into a final VS.Net release. > I would like to ask again for a new name. The .Net suffix establishes a > relation with a company that don't respect the open source community at all. Yep. - LSD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@avalon.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@avalon.apache.org