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From Berin Loritsch <blorit...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Last ditch effort for one Java codebase
Date Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:33:28 GMT
Peter Courcoux wrote:

> Stephen,
> On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 06:44, Stephen McConnell wrote:
>>Peter Courcoux wrote:
>>>0.00002 cents worth from a lurker!
>>>Random thoughts follow!
>>>AF, Phoenix and Fortress are released. You're stuck with them!
>>Actually, no. As noted by Berin (PMC Chair), Fortress has not released 
>>by the Avalon PMC. 
>>Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>>I can deny that it is released in any official capacity.  In fact it 
>>>not be released in any official capacity.  Releases must be approved 
>>>by the
>>>PMC, and this library has never gone up for vote.  As to it being in use
>>>and appreciated, a few folks are benefiting.  As to relevant, I can't say
>>>either way.  As to supported, only by one person, not the whole of 
> It is unfortunate that it was not properly voted on. 
> There was a release announcement and people are using it. That is the
> important thing. I think it would do the Avalon project significant harm
> to withdraw it now and certainly, should it be withdrawn, it must be for
> a reason good enough to justify the withdrawal of any other properly
> released product.

To my knowledge, _Fortress_ was voted on and released as part of the set
of Excalibur releases.  It is officially released.  The above paragraph
was pulled out of context, and it was applied toward Merlin--not Fortress.


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