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From Stephen McConnell <mcconn...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RRT] Getting back to the basics (long)
Date Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:49:51 GMT

Berin Loritsch wrote:

> Stephen McConnell wrote:
>> Leo Sutic wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@apache.org]
>>>> In addition, as a project is it dedicated to pushing back core
>>> reusable
>>>> technologies into a common container architecture - something that 
>>>> impacts everyone here.
>>> This is a good goal - try things out in separate containers and then
>>> merge back the code into the core.
>>> The problem is that such merges often take on the form:
>>> "This code works well in X. So we'll just put it in the core
>>> as it is, and no changes are allowed."
>>> Instead of looking at the concepts of that code, and, allowing it to
>>> change, get merged into the core:
>>> "These ideas works well in X, let's see if and when and in what form 
>>> we can get them into the core."
>>> I think this was what caused the last eruption.
>> Historical correction:
>> Lots of changes were mode to code in question as part of moving it 
>> out of Merlin and into Avalon Meta to accommodate everyone’s 
>> interests. A lot of time was spent refactoring the Merlin base to 
>> incorporate those changes. One particular proposal for change by 
>> Berin was block by veto from me on the grounds that it would be 
>> detrimental to the object model. If Berin really things that his 
>> proposed change must go through - then he can fork the project, pull 
>> a community around the fork, and propose something different. 
>> Alternatively, he can relax a little and accept that there is a 
>> perfectly good solution that meets 90% of needs. That's a decision 
>> that Berin needs to make.
> No, no,no,no,no!
> All forks must be approved by the PMC. 

Can you please provide a reference to a policy or procedure that the 
members of the PMC have agreed to that requires that a fork must be 
approved by the PMC.



Stephen J. McConnell

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