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From Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject Re: Empowering the Developers
Date Thu, 05 Jun 2003 18:19:25 GMT
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 05:25 pm, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> The worst of the wrong rules is Rule #1.  Developers who believe Rule #1
> are a blight on Open Source.  The reason why Rule #1 is so catastrophically
> wrong and so damaging is because of the relationship and attitude that it
> promotes of developers towards non-developers.  Simply put, programs
> developed by developers for themselves and their clique are exercises in
> digital twiddling (you can translate that however you like).  Only when
> developers make a product accessible to the larger community of users, when
> they enhance and adapt the product in response to the needs of consumers
> (at the appropriate level), do those products thrive outside of a narrow
> niche.

Amen. Especially, since the life of a non-committer is pretty hard, i.e. 
making small changes are hard to maintain in isolation, annoying to submit a 
patch/proposal, getting the patch applied by a committer, tracking when that 
patch is applied...
And doing a larger piece is even worse, let's say a refactoring of a couple of 
implementation classes, since the patch may be "invalid" by the time a 
committer try to apply it.

Peter D, not until you allow anyone with strong interest to 
maintain/patch/enhance avalon codebase can you have this fairly arrogant 
attitude between "developers" and "users" (who in Avalon's case is fairly 
advanced developers as well).

Niclas

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