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From Niclas Hedhman <nic...@internuscorp.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] lifecycle release
Date Thu, 20 Mar 2003 04:14:31 GMT
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 16:53, Peter Donald wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:08, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

> > I, for one, like to keep things simple and understandable. I don't favour
> > "essential information" hidden in comments, in a parser friendly format.
> Where do you want it put?
> Metadata makes the components easier to use, deploy and maintain. You could
> store it outside the components in config files but then you have to make
> sure multiple artefacts keep in sync. Having the config files generated
> from the source (or baked in) makes maintainence simple. Best place to
> document code is with the code and metadata is just aform of documentation.

We live in an XML world (or at least I do), and having a "unified" XML Meta 
description document, that can be transformed (for compatibility reasons?) to 
each containers requirement, sounds a lot easier to me...

Especially considering the @tags already in some of my source, from UML and 
JDO (Kodo). It is outright ugly, and after specified (hardly every up for 
change), just occupies vasts amount of precious screen space. Easily get half 
the screen of @tag lines.

Also, if you are requiring me to have dedicated Ant tasks (not everybody 
builds with Ant (strangely enough)) to be used when I develop my Avalon 
blocks/components, then you ARE raising the bar significantly.

I'm pretty new to Avalon (apart from being used in Cocoon), and it has been a 
breeze to start developing components. If I had to get Ant tasks to work for 
my builds, I would probably have turned at the doorway. 
Step out of your boxes and look at it from the 3rdParty person's POV. The 
world don't center around Avalon "core components", and for Avalon to really 
take off, we need a friendlier entry point, and XML is (today) a lot 
friendlier and more accepted, than "yet-another-semi-obscure-@-tagset" in 


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