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From Stephen McConnell <mcconn...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Proposal] PMC Resolution Voting Process
Date Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:54:17 GMT


Berin Loritsch wrote:

>>From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@apache.org]
>>
>>Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>
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>>>Steve!  I think we have something here!  I like your modifications
>>>to everything listed below.  You have my +1 on this.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>Thats because we have the same private agenda.
>>Community empowerment.
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>
>Ok, Lets #1, put this proposal (with your mods) up for vote,
>and #2 incorporate it into the Charter.
>
>Can I get you to write it up in a manner that will be incorporated
>into the Charter and then post that section to the list for VOTE?
>
>I'd do it myself, but I have another work related proposal I have
>to finish up.  I also don't have CVS access while at work--I just
>got my other machine, so I will see what I can do with it.
>  
>

No problem - will do.

Steve.

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>>;-)
>>
>>Steve.
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>>>I also like the qualification of not allowing a VOTE unless it is
>>>previously been a PROPOSAL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>From: Stephen McConnell [mailto:mcconnell@apache.org]
>>>>
>>>>Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>I am putting this in another thread because Charter.txt is now
>>>>>very long and we have two types of voting on the table.  I want
>>>>>to separate them as much as possible.  Below is my understanding
>>>>>of the PMC voting process as of the last discussion:
>>>>>
>>>>>* Strict majority ( > 50% ) with a quorum of 50% of the PMC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>One requested modification. A vote the relates to a change to the
>>>>charter and/or policies and procedures shall require a 2/3 majority.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>* PMC votes are open for a minimum of one week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>+1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>>* If quorum cannot be met within one week, voting remains open
>>>>>up to two (2) weeks until quorum is met.  If quorum cannot be
>>>>>meet in that time period, the resolution has considered to
>>>>>have failed.  It can be brought up again when more people are
>>>>>willing to vote on the proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>+1
>>>>
>>>>In terms of policy and procedure test - I suggest dropping the last
>>>>sentence but including this as an explanitory note.  Also,
>>>>under chair
>>>>rights and privaliges, the chair should be granted the right
>>>>to disallow
>>>>a vote if he/she considers the motion inappropriate (this covers not
>>>>only things like reoccuring votes for the same thing, but also votes
>>>>that are not within the concern of the PMC - e.g. technical issues).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>This voting process is for PMC related issues.  That includes
>>>>>the legal documents (resolutions, charter, by-laws, etc.).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>This needs to be worked up a bit more - yes, I know - propose
>>>>something
>>>>- and yes, I'll get to it!
>>>>
>>>>One more thing - I think that at the level of the PMC would
>>>>        
>>>>
>>be strict
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>>>>about seperating [PROPOSAL]s from [VOTE]s.  A vote should not
>>>>be allowed
>>>>if (a) it has not been the subject of a prior proposal - i.e.
>>>>discussion, and (b) cannot be considered as a binding vote
>>>>unless (i) it
>>>>is raised under the [VOTE] tag, and (ii) the chair has issued a
>>>>[VOTE-RESULT].
>>>>
>>>>Cheers, Steve.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
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