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From "Andrew C. Oliver" <acoli...@apache.org>
Subject Re: On Multiple Containers
Date Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:33:53 GMT
Being a rather dumb user type.  I rather prefer choice...  just my 2 


Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > I still disagree rather strongly with you.  Take a look at J2EE.  Sun
> > wrote the specs and the compliance testing framework.  They even have
> > a reference implementation--which I may add they do not recommend for
> > prime-time.  The real J2EE systems are written by third parties like
> > JBoss, BEA, IBM, etc.
> >
> > I don't see how having one super-container is going to help.  I doubt
> > we would be able to come to one vision.  The fact that consumers have
> > to choose between systems with largely overlapping functionality in
> > J2EE systems proves that consumers are intelligent enough to find out
> > what their needs are.  What we need to do is provide enough information
> > to help the consumer make their decision.
> Sun designs a framework, so does Avalon.
> Sun ships *ONE* reference implementation of that framework and allows
> external entities to build other implementations.
> Why should Avalon ship more than one reference implementation?
> Cocoon is also a framework.
> Tell me: if Cocoon was shipping four different implementations of the
> Cocoon internal interfaces for every time a new vocal developer comes in
> and doesn't like what the community decides, would that make it
> perceived as a better project from the user community?
> Think about it.

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