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From Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>
Subject Re: On Multiple Containers
Date Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:35:54 GMT
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > From: Peter Royal [mailto:proyal@apache.org]
> > I think a single container is a goal we should strive towards. Users 
> > don't want to have to pick a container due to separate but 
> > overlapping 
> > feature sets. We should strive towards a single container that is 
> > pluggable to the point of satisfying many needs. I think the current 
> > experimentations with multiple containers lets us push things into 
> > different directions to see what we may want from that ubercontainer.
> I still disagree rather strongly with you.  Take a look at J2EE.  Sun
> wrote the specs and the compliance testing framework.  They even have
> a reference implementation--which I may add they do not recommend for
> prime-time.  The real J2EE systems are written by third parties like
> JBoss, BEA, IBM, etc.
> I don't see how having one super-container is going to help.  I doubt
> we would be able to come to one vision.  The fact that consumers have
> to choose between systems with largely overlapping functionality in
> J2EE systems proves that consumers are intelligent enough to find out
> what their needs are.  What we need to do is provide enough information
> to help the consumer make their decision.



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