Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-avalon-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 94935 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 14:28:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 14:28:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4249 invoked by uid 97); 12 Jun 2002 14:28:27 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 4229 invoked by uid 97); 12 Jun 2002 14:28:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Avalon Developers List" Reply-To: "Avalon Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 4191 invoked by uid 98); 12 Jun 2002 14:28:25 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4198 created Apr 24 2002) Message-ID: <3D075B08.40807@osm.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:30:32 +0200 From: Stephen McConnell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/20020510 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Avalon Developers List Subject: Re: [Summary] Avalon 5 ComponentManager interface References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Carsten Ziegeler wrote: >Leo Sutic wrote: > > >>Carsten, >> >>you are right - everything gets a little bit more complicated. >> >> >> >Yes, and this is the thing that worries me - I know a lot of people >saying "Avalon is too complicated" and this makes it even a little >bit more complicated, > Actually I have quite the opposite view. I belive that what is happending at the moment is equivilent to ironing out the wrinkes on an excellant tapestry. When those wrinkles dissaper you will see more and more value as tools converge toward a common model, extensions to the framework become more and more unified, small inconsistencies in the abstractions between different layers dissapear. But the value is not having something the is perfect - no - the value is having something this is really consistent in implementation and abstraction - and that's funcamentally important if your automating development or runtime processes - and that's the magic that deliver simplicity. Frankly, I have to confess - I'm really excited about A5. Cheers, Steve. -- Stephen J. McConnell OSM SARL digital products for a global economy mailto:mcconnell@osm.net http://www.osm.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: