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From: "Berin Loritsch" <bloritsch@apache.org>
To: "'Avalon Developers List'" <avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [VOTE] RE: Removing some of the irons from the fire
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:30:53 -0400
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> From: Leo Sutic [mailto:leo.sutic@inspireinfrastructure.com]=20
>=20
> > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> >
> > > > At the same time, my status of committer in this project is
> > > > honorific and emeritus. For this reason, I don't consider=20
> > myself as
> > > > a committer of this effort anymore (despite the fact that
> > the system
> > > > allows me to commit, if I really wanted to). My votes
> > don't count,
> > > > until you guys vote my emeritus status back (but I don't want to
> > > > call for such a votation
> > > right now).
> > >=20
> > > VOTE
> > > ----
> > > Restore Stefano's committer status IMMEDIATELY.
> > >=20
> > > Reason: Either Stefano has common sense or he hasn't. If=20
> he has, he=20
> > > will not vote when he knows he does not understand the=20
> issue. If he=20
> > > does not have common sense, well, will he care about any=20
> > > "no-you-may-not-vote-or-change-CVS" rule? (No.)
> > >=20
> > > +1 from me.
> >=20
> > Stefano's CVS privaledges have not been revoked (at least to
> > my knowledge).  All he said was that he wants to regain the=20
> > respect in this community and earn what he already has.
>=20
> Yes - and that is what I am proposing. He explicitly says=20
> that he will not vote until we (as a formality) vote him back as a
> committer: "My votes don't count, until you guys vote my emeritus=20
> status back (but I don't want to call for such a votation right=20
> now)."
>=20
> As I stated, if he has common sense he'll know when to vote and=20
> when not to. If he doesn't have it, well, he won't remember any
> *self-imposed* "no-you-may-not-vote-or-change-CVS" rule.
>=20
> So give the guy a pat on the back, a "welcome back, dude, mate,=20
> geezer (British meaning)" and see what happens. What's the worst=20
> outcome?=20
>=20
>  1) A load of idiot mails and=20
>=20
>  2) and a lot of votes cast for "the wrong" proposals.
>=20
> I won't comment (1), but if ONE person can, by voting, get=20
> something moronic through, then the voting process is broken=20
> or we're all equally moronic (by not vetoing).


I doubt we will have that kind of trouble with Stefano.  He's got
some decent mettle, and he's pretty intelligent (he does have a
doctorate....).

I have no qualms with him, and I think he would be a great asset
to the Avalon community.  I vote +1 to have him back in full swing.


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