Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-avalon-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 50711 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2002 22:15:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Jun 2002 22:15:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19784 invoked by uid 97); 17 Jun 2002 22:15:41 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 19768 invoked by uid 97); 17 Jun 2002 22:15:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact avalon-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Avalon Developers List" Reply-To: "Avalon Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 19756 invoked by uid 98); 17 Jun 2002 22:15:40 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4198 created Apr 24 2002) From: "Stephen Haberman" To: "'Avalon Developers List'" Subject: RE: [a5] is the time really now? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:14:40 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c2164c$60e80860$078a3089@sh4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: X-MDRemoteIP: 137.48.138.7 X-Return-Path: stephenh@chase3000.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I really like the idea of filling out A4 a bit more before embarking on A5. I've been reading the Avalon docs off and on over the last week and have been really impressed. However, I want to use Avalon on a project coming up and my boss would be much more open to using an A4 that has matured and easier for us to develop with than using an A5 that is API-perfect but less mature. Just my opinion; I'm still new enough that I don't have a clue as to what a "mature" A4 would constitute, other than, from a user's standpoint, I like it. - Stephen > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Royal [mailto:proyal@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 3:35 PM > To: avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: [a5] is the time really now? > > There has been a *LOT* of traffic recently discussing dreams of what v5 > should look like. There is obviously lots of time and brainpower going into > these discussions. My question is, is now really the time to be embarking > upon this redesign? > > v4 is barely a year old. There are a fair number of projects built on top of > it already. IMHO our energy might be better spent enhancing what we have now, > making it more attractive to other developers w/ solid component > dependencies, metainfo that is portable across multiple container > implementations, and everything else that makes a project "mature". > > We all seem to love the design process and making something "just right", but > is it not "good enough" right now? Maybe I've just been hardened by the real > world, there's never enough time to achieve api nirvana..... > > just some thoughts. > -pete > > -- > peter royal -> proyal@apache.org > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > For additional commands, e-mail: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: