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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <nicola...@apache.org>
Subject Re: What is Avalon?
Date Wed, 26 Jun 2002 06:17:36 GMT

Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>>>That's also why many outsiders say: "Hey, we have commons-logging, 
>>>JNDI, JMX, why do you want to rewrite all?". 
>>
> 
> Bad example.

Bzzzz wrong. It's a good example.

That *exactly what users from the *outside* of Jakarta say.

> The commons-logging guys were the ones rewriting the 
> Avalon stuff. They might have started earlier, but by December the
> Avalon logging stuff was MUCH more advanced and smoe of them just
> refused to look at it.

*This* is the point.
If Avalon's was so good why did they rewrite it?

> What Pete says about the ego bits is the major problem. Most of the
> commons and Tomcat guys complaining did not even care to know what 
> they are talking about.

The ego stuff goes two ways ;-)

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
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