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From "Bernard D'Have" <bdhav...@wanadoo.be>
Subject RE: [RT] Avalon Developer Tools
Date Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:44:55 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:bloritsch@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2001 20:33
> To: avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [RT] Avalon Developer Tools
> It would be handy to have some developer tools that don't cost an
> arm and a leg.  My question is first, "Does anyone know if these tools
> exist?", and second, "If not, are we interested in a subproject to
> house them?".  Until we upgrade, we can use the Avalonia project that
> we have at SourceForge to handle these things.
> 1) Database definition managment.  It would be Really Great (TM) to
>     have a tool that took an XML representation of a group of tables
>     and views, and spat out the DB specific SQL commands to generate
>     the database.  It would be even better if this tool could be
>     embedded in ANT!  The other side of the tool would be the GUI that
>     you used to create the XML markup.  Another Really Great (TM) thing
>     would be to handle the initial values that needed to be inserted
>     into the database to make it useable.

there is a sub-project of jakarta-turbine for that: Torque


> 2) Configuration GUI.  Let's face it, building a configuration file
>     by hand is only enjoyable by people who know what they are doing.
>     For the rest of us, we need a GUI to help out.  One particular
>     utility we can use is Xybrix (http://jbrix.org/kits/xybrix).  It
>     takes XForms (or a close proximation) and generates the GUI
>     dynamically.  That way, components can have the XForms definition
>     with them and Xybrix can generate the entry for it.
> 3) Component Server.  When you want to really make something a bit
>     easier to maintain, you want your tools to manage the monitoring
>     and notifications of updates.  That way you can always have the
>     most current version of a Component.  This may work better for
>     Blocks, but it's an idea we had a long time ago (hense the
>     blockinfo descriptor files, etc.)
> To me, the first one is the most important--esp. since the last
> couple of days has been spent tediously taking an Informix schema
> dump, and massaging the output to work with PostgeSQL.  PAINFUL
> AND BEST TO BE AVOIDED IF POSSIBLE.  Commercial tools that manage
> all that for you are more than $1000 USD, and many times are quite
> clunky to use.
> --
> "Those who would trade liberty for
>   temporary security deserve neither"
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