Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-aurora-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-aurora-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE7B61128E for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61045 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2014 19:26:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-aurora-dev-archive@aurora.apache.org Received: (qmail 60960 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2014 19:26:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@aurora.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@aurora.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@aurora.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 60949 invoked by uid 99); 22 Apr 2014 19:26:14 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:26:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1998.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE,RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.3] (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:26:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 60894 invoked by uid 99); 22 Apr 2014 19:25:52 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:25:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ve0-f170.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username wfarner, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:25:52 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id pa12so10417082veb.1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:25:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn1NJS44R2WtsrexqcUrrBaTe+mJi3pMgiqZu0WPFuBAgkCVvNk5PPTx8Ab89/MynweXG3S MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.123.71 with SMTP id ly7mr41551925veb.11.1398194751324; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.59.101 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:25:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C00A8D4-D2EB-40D8-BE91-854BCDB252AF@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 12:25:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] shepherding contributors From: Bill Farner To: "dev@aurora.incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115f0a27adb0d04f7a6956e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e0115f0a27adb0d04f7a6956e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I disagree that shepherding is unneeded. Just having a de-facto tier one support contact is huge to help acquaint a new developer. Perhaps our definitions of shepherd differs, i'm thinking of it amounting to "when you have questions, [committer name] is here to help you". -=Bill On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > I think for small community like Aurora we do not need shepherding for > contributors. > > We could do it via JIRA and review boards as Sebastien mentioned. If a > contributor is interested in certain feature then one of the PPMCs > could just engage and help driving through solution. > > Once contributions come as rapid as in Apache Spark or Hadoop, then I > believe shepherding of new contributors needed. > > - Henry > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Sebastien Goasguen > wrote: > > > > > >> On 22 Apr 2014, at 20:04, Bill Farner wrote: > >> > >> Some things not yet addressed (some have obvious solutions, but still > >> warrant explicit discussion): > >> > >> - What is expected of a shepherd? > >> > >> - How does a newcomer learn that we have a shepherd program? > >> > >> - How is a shepherd assigned > > > > Doesn't sheperding happens through review board and jira ? And whoever > picks up review or comments on bug is the sheperd ? > > > > > >> -=Bill > >> > >> > >>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Jake Farrell > wrote: > >>> > >>> As part of our first IRC meeting one of the topics that came up was > >>> shepherding contributors that have shown interest and how we can help > and > >>> encourage them into committer roles and grow the community. > >>> > >>> Opening this discussion thread so we can flush out any ideas not > brought up > >>> during the meeting > >>> > >>> -Jake > >>> > --089e0115f0a27adb0d04f7a6956e--