From general-return-1729-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@attic.apache.org Thu Feb 15 22:22:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id D0D3E18064A for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:22:17 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 52958 invoked by uid 500); 15 Feb 2018 21:22:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@attic.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@attic.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@attic.apache.org Received: (qmail 52936 invoked by uid 99); 15 Feb 2018 21:22:16 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:22:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B6EF118000E for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.102 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.102 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qyf4FayOU9Wf for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl0-f43.google.com (mail-pl0-f43.google.com [209.85.160.43]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8AF8A5F18A for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl0-f43.google.com with SMTP id t4so556527plo.0 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:22:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0PDDP9xGbEUsteOwbnLUakrFK9iL91eV4THJnlIfPFw=; b=GAGOew5pDUug/Z9QCybbmYHqTiS53JNcR1jQqESwExUETyqmwQmWetmHfoqfLqu2I1 rnMmFt8unKnnypig0ZLlufD3+UwvKzmDinzGwqdYyUw/zvuWFx3vCRPc1kkhdZI8SUYA 9ZowJLEqvPcj+ZlblwoehlAbFOszeJkQ0aIKckmaEz2wDy7C2gX1YtjWVowoV0lCX2eg hQv5mhhRPeSIrPccg+VtwX8vg4HrQBkX05VjdJcvViwWFXfO0Oz1gAlvWmRAN/0jaGat FF8w4p9k7yHU7zjhVBbGNszhVkE0Y5QiVdahtXHmry8Jea0qm2zkg5BFDeCzS7rFlHNQ Kltg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0PDDP9xGbEUsteOwbnLUakrFK9iL91eV4THJnlIfPFw=; b=CrVs+dqoqBik9lWsNHo6XHc3PnxYdVZ74UWJ+vBbS5qjaDV7Y3pFKq2gCN08IK0WUr bUeDFfTRvOJ85rjPTmLbApJZPt6Z0wZZeot4KOb2o8BE5ayhIubaPG4c4G2AbnumXWlz 9973vEtJEIrJl4jgvp2jSosWlFaAx/CkwqUw7sqkIioxGGCfgTl13per5Qt7ZXoknbPp n+oV5g0tAsdnzi6NatIJjMsIVP7rnX3xtFeDjFO2xCgaJUijWWfIjJO/yTGmwrx//Th5 c6aTEVFALcuq9u9WoWlJPUa2bqNsPhjJA3TVLNkDtsjuoSfb6pQKAe4AnPsAKVztaE/G EDYA== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPAEvmLZCViYS3nk2PZ8XbwI8IvKV+HCsKMaTFv3HnxRO54gSGHq pv3knsWMjD8FPRXa0OLnLNge/gY4MfyDRGulAGGt9dEZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2241bTmJejP7NKhikYvEdcjcOXFg0Mqa6BSsRXE29rPa/1HPdlZTBrI2EPhyY3k8SM0U00AG7x9qZJR6IJsSMmg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:14b:: with SMTP id 69-v6mr3801995plb.209.1518729733264; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:22:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.174.17 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:22:12 -0800 (PST) From: sebb Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 21:22:12 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Redirects for attic project download directories To: general@attic.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The original thread got derailed, so here is what I think the issue is. When a project is moved to the attic, its website is updated to show a banner that the project has been retired, with a link to the attic. Also, its release files on www.apache.org/dist are removed, and replaced with an .htaccess redirect to an Attic page with summary details of the project. e.g. http://www.apache.org/dist/harmony redirects to http://attic.apache.org/projects/harmony.html Whilst this redirect works, and is simple to administer, it means there are many directories under www.apache.org/dist/ which only contain an .htaccess file, and scripts may have to be aware of which directories correspond to active projects. It would be useful to be able to tidy this up. However it is important that the redirects are kept as there are likely to be links to the download location in lots of places. We should not break URLs unnecessarily. Note that the redirects also work on mirror links as well as on the ASF hosts. This behaviour should be preserved as historical links will generally use the dynamic mirror system. For example the harmony download page [1] points to the mirrors; externally preserved links are likely to do so as well. Removing the .htaccess files and their parent directories will break all the links, so IMO that is not an option. AFAIK .htaccess files are inherited from the parent directory, so it should be possible to move the individual redirects to a shared parent .htaccess file. This needs to be tested. [1] http://harmony.apache.org/download.cgi