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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Remove old projects (more than 4 year in ATTIC)
Date Thu, 15 Feb 2018 19:43:45 GMT
On 15 February 2018 at 18:31, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 19:24, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15 February 2018 at 13:11, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 12:05, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just in case it is not obvious, I am -1 to the removal of the
>> >> .htaccess files under old retired TLPs UNLESS another way is found to
>> >> continue to redirect users.
>> >
>> > To me it was not obvious before I saw your comment on the ticket.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Also, I feel a fundamental change such as this should be discussed in
>> >> a separate thread, rather than buried deep in an another thread about
>> >> project ACE.
>> >
>> > That is a very valid point, and nothing is stopping you from opening a
>> > separate thread.
>>
>> Ideally the person wishing to change the status quo should do this.
>>
>> >
>> > Let me try to sum up.
>> >
>> >
>> > Henk prefers to remove the directories and the .htaccess files
>> > Sebb is against removal (unless it is kept in another form)
>> > I have no strong opinion, but have given my +1 in favour of Henk.
>> >4
>> > I would of course prefer a solution where we have consensus, and thus
>> urge
>> > Henk/Sebb to try and find that.
>> >
>> > Any other opinions or comments ? If not majority “wins” and the ticket
>> will
>> > be reopened sometime next week.
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't think the vote is valid in its present form.
>
>
> Who speak about vote ? I did not call a vote, voting is not demanded for
> technical matters, only when electing new committers/PMC and changing chair
> (even in these cases consensus is generally accepted).
>
> Technical matters are decided by discussion and preferable consensus.
>
> iin case you feel a vote is demanded, please pass a pointer to the relevant
> bylaw.

I regard the proposal as akin to a code change, as it affects the
behaviour of various systems
As such, it is subject to veto:

https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification

> rgds
> jan I
>
> ps. you jumped over the more relevant part, where I urge you and Henk to
> achieve consensus.

Fine, but this needs to be done in a separate thread.

>
>>
>> > have a nice weekend.
>> > rgds
>> > jan i
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 14 February 2018 at 14:52, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On 14 February 2018 at 12:55, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl>
wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100
>> >> >>> From: jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> To: general@attic.apache.org
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: project ACE.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>    If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>      svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>    for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
>> >> >>>>              jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> +1
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   Thanks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much space
it will
>> >> free ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     /dist/XXX/.htaccess
>> >> >
>> >> > If this is removed, I think it should be replaced with a redirect to
>> >> > the archives.
>> >> >
>> >> >>   I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for instance
:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>     https://checker.apache.org/
>> >> >
>> >> > Surely you can check for .htaccess and ignore the folder accordingly?
>> >> >
>> >> >>> Jan i
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   Thanks ; regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   HPP
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------  
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>> >> >> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta                 R Uithof MG-403    _/
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>> >> >> Faculty of Science, Utrecht University    T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/
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>> >> >> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl     \_/
>> >>
>> > --
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>>
> --
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