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From jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Remove old projects (more than 4 year in ATTIC)
Date Thu, 15 Feb 2018 20:16:39 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 20:43, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15 February 2018 at 18:31, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 19:24, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 February 2018 at 13:11, jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 12:05, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Just in case it is not obvious, I am -1 to the removal of the
> >> >> .htaccess files under old retired TLPs UNLESS another way is found
to
> >> >> continue to redirect users.
> >> >
> >> > To me it was not obvious before I saw your comment on the ticket.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, I feel a fundamental change such as this should be discussed
in
> >> >> a separate thread, rather than buried deep in an another thread about
> >> >> project ACE.
> >> >
> >> > That is a very valid point, and nothing is stopping you from opening a
> >> > separate thread.
> >>
> >> Ideally the person wishing to change the status quo should do this.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Let me try to sum up.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Henk prefers to remove the directories and the .htaccess files
> >> > Sebb is against removal (unless it is kept in another form)
> >> > I have no strong opinion, but have given my +1 in favour of Henk.
> >> >4
> >> > I would of course prefer a solution where we have consensus, and thus
> >> urge
> >> > Henk/Sebb to try and find that.
> >> >
> >> > Any other opinions or comments ? If not majority “wins” and the ticket
> >> will
> >> > be reopened sometime next week.
> >>
> >> Sorry, but I don't think the vote is valid in its present form.
> >
> >
> > Who speak about vote ? I did not call a vote, voting is not demanded for
> > technical matters, only when electing new committers/PMC and changing
> chair
> > (even in these cases consensus is generally accepted).
> >
> > Technical matters are decided by discussion and preferable consensus.
> >
> > iin case you feel a vote is demanded, please pass a pointer to the
> relevant
> > bylaw.
>
> I regard the proposal as akin to a code change, as it affects the
> behaviour of various systems
> As such, it is subject to veto:
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification


so in your mind all changes in ATTIC needs a vote, not a very open
suggestion.
(because everything we do affect somebody).


> > rgds
> > jan I
> >
> > ps. you jumped over the more relevant part, where I urge you and Henk to
> > achieve consensus.
>
> Fine, but this needs to be done in a separate thread.

Well If you want that then start that thread....you cannot expect others to
do that just because you want it, consensus seeking is a two way street.

As I said earlier I have no strong opinions here, but I do expect all
participants of this list to try and avoid conflicts and instead seek
consensus....so again, you are the one with a different opinion, so please
help find consensus instead of telling what (others) need to do.

rgds
jan I

>
>
> >
> >>
> >> > have a nice weekend.
> >> > rgds
> >> > jan i
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 14 February 2018 at 14:52, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On 14 February 2018 at 12:55, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100
> >> >> >>> From: jan iversen <jancasacondor@gmail.com>
> >> >> >>> To: general@attic.apache.org
> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: project ACE.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>    If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>      svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>    for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur
harmony
> >> >> >>>>              jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> +1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   Thanks.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much
space it
> will
> >> >> free ?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     /dist/XXX/.htaccess
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If this is removed, I think it should be rep
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=emoved,+I+think+it+should+be+rep&entry=gmail&source=g>laced
> with a redirect to
> >> >> > the archives.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>   I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for
> instance :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>     https://checker.apache.org/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Surely you can check for .htaccess and ignore the folder
> accordingly?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>> Jan i
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   Thanks ; regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>   HPP
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >> >> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta                 R Uithof MG-403
   _/ \_
> >> >> >> Faculty of Science, Utrecht University    T +31 30 253 4106
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> \
> >> >> >> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL          F +31 30 253 4553
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> \_/
> >> >> >> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl
    \_/
> >> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> >>
> > --
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>
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