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> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Michael Blow wrote: >>>> removing temporary datasets? >> +1 >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:52 PM Murtadha Hubail wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> As you might be aware, we have a feature in AsterixDB to create temporary >>> datasets that differ from regular datasets in some ways such as: >>> Their existence is not persisted in metadata, but only in the CC metadata >>> cache. >>> They don’t’ generate any transaction logs >>> Their files are deleted on NC restart. >>> If they are not accessed for some period of time, their metadata records >>> are removed from the CC metadata cache. >>> >>> >>> Temporary datasets were originally introduced to serve as a staging area >>> between AsterixDB and external systems such as Perglix. However, as the >>> system evolved over the years, the assumptions they were built on don’t >>> hold anymore and they could lead to undesired consequences such as leaking >>> files after a CC restart or inability to access the dataset files on a >>> restarted NC. Therefore, I’m proposing to remove the support for the >>> current temporary datasets and we may add the feature with a careful design >>> at a later stage. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any thoughts or concerns on removing temporary datasets? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Murtadha >>> >>> --------------CD827C73E976134A45D0E236--