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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Mike Carey wrote: > +1 from me too for SQL++ and clean JSON. > > > > On 1/10/17 8:25 AM, Murtadha Hubail wrote: > >> +1 to SQL++ and clean JSON. >> >> Cheers, >> Murtadha >> >> On Jan 10, 2017, at 9:46 AM, Till Westmann wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> as you know AsterixDB supports 2 query languages (AQL and SQL++) and ma= ny >>> output formats (ADM, clean JSON, lossless JSON, CSV). Our current >>> defaults >>> for these options (at least on the web interface) are AQL and ADM. >>> >>> I=E2=80=99d like to propose to change those defaults to be SQL++ and (c= lean) >>> JSON. >>> The reason for wanting them to change, is that I think that these choic= es >>> are more attractive to new users of the system and thus can help to >>> increase >>> the adoption of AsterixDB. A user with some database experience is much >>> more >>> likely to have previous SQL experience and to feel at home with SQL++ >>> than >>> having XQuery experience and feeling at home with AQL. Similarly, most >>> users >>> will want to use the data that they get out of AsterixDB in an >>> application >>> and it will be a lot easier to consume JSON than it is to consume ADM. >>> >>> I've prepared a (tiny) change to change the defaults [1] and I'm >>> wondering >>> if there are concerns that should keep us from making this change. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Till >>> >>> [1] https://asterix-gerrit.ics.uci.edu/#/c/1409/ >>> >> > --001a114fd4da2554d80545c0bbf4--