Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3C7A18CDC for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46013 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2016 20:46:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@asterixdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 45954 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2016 20:46:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45941 invoked by uid 99); 17 Mar 2016 20:46:46 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:46:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id E79C1C33E0 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:46:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.179 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.179 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eSX_JNZZhBfk for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id F3DCB5F244 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 20:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ts10so96541295obc.1 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:46:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=aY78WEkeDhyjBSFk/Jiin/bpdKxNEdSMuhIh7wcUAHQ=; b=FDG241xoCTyXWOgpLEfHlK/NLp1iFuWX4WKfcosEHgU5IsTN33fqt7iQknxFIRQK9O KX59d7IxwmsKSrAEgXG6w5afOEDKLf2tmZnd0a9vQmZy1qWl8pO3HVoAeuFvHEyaA0ym 2Y/cmsBSpPFWFU0sCS4GZ3hvfm0g48H5SWEoIjKzBft/1U/86rLknJccj/VMnQomilxK Uxrz5oVL34aJ7oGRIdMbqHIbqWR26+yqxIw8n2sqzz+kiHP9UFWwS/6FCv+1kg/mZpkN dNzNyyJNV2ughloAQLtyQxmSSxME3l20WFSsbAjwrhaj2ETXqn9Kwtax/TvnhUnTeaDF IQWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=aY78WEkeDhyjBSFk/Jiin/bpdKxNEdSMuhIh7wcUAHQ=; b=hRpCTGMOxrN2Qh2hpJSxIVmyT4bES+6Y3ZzngTTNt00bA6+n4DW5++cZ6taXf3w34j G5RdLh3Mf4sLIWcnEEC/FrF4KrJ5rxv9gQRnrXsUbfcm0dUPadqvVB78Dcw6WYJduCXX dhmSpX7LUva0hRyG1oqIAhNCgx+V9UwsvIHJMS1MKLWPJxjqZgDsv1kz132/ZbS+5sWu IOoywSTiLHBlzh74BfZSgyDCSCHOoXqB/4nUkhYjU561c0UHKYnlUgcnIn+mg9l5plvX DLtVgQx3HAbLhBbvcI6inSdMMEK7g0XksxTQsqg046cOsvWo2HRXXuZctmY0j+jWfZAX k+8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIq9jFeGjT3qqN7IDVzLqPmYAn73sMHA/O7990U9mL4/c3K0qCAR9i2z4d3kk/NhZPu1fp0HYCxVc3aFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.82.10 with SMTP id e10mr8114631oey.0.1458247602934; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.87.35 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:46:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <67B952B9-0360-4703-95B2-AFCC90C9457A@apache.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 23:46:42 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting up to speed on AsterixDB (was: [DISCUSS] Graduation from the incubator) From: abdullah alamoudi To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6767ca5e179f052e44ba6a --047d7b6767ca5e179f052e44ba6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Totally agree and this is very much needed and will be worth the investment= . Regards, Abdullah. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:39 PM, Chen Li wrote: > We need to do a good job maintaining documentations of the project. To > achieve the goal, we need to decide a protocol and enforce it. > > Chen > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Till Westmann wrote: > > > In the spirit of not hijacking the thread I=E2=80=99m trying to create = a new > > thread here. > > > > On your question: > > I think that getting up to speed is not quick and it is difficult. Even > > for those of us with the 10+ years industrial experience the learning > curve > > is steep. As you said, the code-base is big and big pieces of it are no= t > > trivial. There are a number of papers on the high-level concepts, but t= he > > distance between those and the code is also not small. And the learning > > curve is also steep for people at the universities. > > > > We have been thinking about ways to ease the access to the code-base e.= g. > > by adding a few references and design docs to the wiki [1]. And while I > > think that this is a step ahead it is not a solution. > > > > Also, while I=E2=80=99ve found everybody to be friendly and helpful, no= body is > > working full-time on easing the access to the code-base for newcomers - > > this is usually a volunteer activity in addition to the day-job. > > > > I think that the way that people have been able to get to the code-base > is > > to > > - start at some piece that they think could use some improvement and th= en > > to > > - find our how it works and > > - how it can be improved > > and then move forward from there. > > > > I=E2=80=99m sorry that I cannot suggest a better way here. > > But maybe somebody else on the list has a better idea or can tell you h= ow > > they managed to overcome the initial hurdle? > > > > Cheers, > > Till > > > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Home > > > > On 16 Mar 2016, at 7:42, Sandeep Joshi wrote: > > > > Mike, > >> > >> I asked because I wanted to ascertain how quickly a newcomer outside t= he > >> UCI circle can come up to speed with the vast asterixdb code-base. > >> > >> I don't want to hijack this thread so maybe we can start another threa= d. > >> I am interested in knowing how one could gain proficiency in > participating > >> in asterixdb development. What design patterns should one keep in > mind, > >> what hasn't worked historically, what sequence of tasks can one take o= n > to > >> learn about various parts of the system, etc. > >> > >> -Sandeep > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Mike Carey wrote: > >> > >> And I would guess there are at least 5 individuals with 10+ years of > >>> industrial experience (apiece) on the current team, if that's one of > the > >>> reasons for the inquiry, with a handful more probably in the 2-5-ish > >>> years > >>> range. :-) > >>> > >>> On 3/15/16 9:32 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Sandeep, > >>>> > >>>> On 15 Mar 2016, at 19:13, Sandeep Joshi wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I am curious to know how many committers are from outside the academ= ic > >>>> > >>>>> circle (i.e. those who have not worked in the past on Asterixdb at = UC > >>>>> Irvine or other academic institutions ) ? > >>>>> > >>>>> I think that the current number committers without academic UC > heritage > >>>> is 3 (it=E2=80=99s an educated guess as I don=E2=80=99t know the CVs= of the > committers). > >>>> Actually, a nice number for a project that was a university project = 12 > >>>> months ago. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Till > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > --047d7b6767ca5e179f052e44ba6a--