Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D2518841 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98053 invoked by uid 500); 19 Nov 2015 21:14:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@asterixdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 98024 invoked by uid 500); 19 Nov 2015 21:14:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98013 invoked by uid 99); 19 Nov 2015 21:14:11 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 69B8E1A2DCB for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.97 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.97 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I6WTJ0pejJmh for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with SMTP id 8413D20225 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97985 invoked by uid 99); 19 Nov 2015 21:14:10 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:10 +0000 Received: from [10.17.1.105] (unknown [206.169.106.2]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 1BDC21A00D5 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:14:09 +0000 (UTC) From: "Till Westmann" To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] stabilization phase Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:14:09 -0800 Message-ID: <16295EAD-5C55-4991-9240-A368D6AD9028@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <564E2E7A.8080404@gmail.com> References: <65CA303A-2CF9-450A-A42F-B667FCB4EA4E@apache.org> <564E2E7A.8080404@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.2r5141) My main goal it to get the number of painful issues down and I agree that that doesn’t require that everything else stops. However, I think that it is likely take some toll on innovation as some time would be spent on fixing issues and merging fixes into the feature branches .. On 19 Nov 2015, at 12:18, Mike Carey wrote: > +1 --- but --- to be clear, I don't think this is proposing an > every-hand-stops-innovating phase. I think the proposal is for a mode > where MASTER is locked down and all folks do try and fix their higher > priority bugs on a weekly basis - but that folks who're working on > separate things (e.g., spatial index performance or BAD approaches to > data handling) would still do that, just not in master (which isn't > where it's happening anyway). Master would be closed for business > until all "Major" and above bugs are indeed fixed. (Because that's > where we'll cut release branches from, and that needs to be > stabilized.) @Till, is that a correct understanding? Thoughts? > > On 11/19/15 10:49 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: >> +1. Our tests need a lot of work, so putting new features on the back >> burner will definitely help with getting that work done. >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:43 AM, abdullah alamoudi >> wrote: >>> ++1 >>> >>> Amoudi, Abdullah. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Yingyi Bu >>> wrote: >>> >>>> +1! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Yingyi >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Till Westmann >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> there are a number of discussions (on and off list) and other >>>>> indicators >>>>> (people on the users list not getting ahead) that we have a >>>>> relatively >>>> big >>>>> number of issues that affect both the usability (and adoption) of >>>>> the >>>>> system and the productivity of development. >>>>> >>>>> I think that it would be good to move into a stabilization phase >>>>> for a >>>>> while. In such a phase we would focus on addressing known issues >>>>> and only >>>>> add new features to master is there is broad agreement (on this >>>>> list) >>>> that >>>>> the feature is an exception. The goal of the phase would be to >>>>> address >>>> all >>>>> issues of priority “Major” and above (with the option of >>>>> agreeing on >>>>> de-prioritizing issues …) and to increase test coverage. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? Concerns? Questions? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Till >>>>> >>>>> P.S. I think that the 0.8.8 release should not be affected by >>>>> entering >>>>> such a phase. >>>>>