Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52F2918C56 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8403 invoked by uid 500); 8 Aug 2015 08:32:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@asterixdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 8363 invoked by uid 500); 8 Aug 2015 08:32:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8351 invoked by uid 99); 8 Aug 2015 08:32:50 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:32:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 7059D19ED17 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:32:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.791 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.791 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1.108, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GSz9HR4ncaG2 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f182.google.com (mail-io0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 16ED942984 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so131344822ioe.3 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 01:32:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=U9xDNqcdEze4RP0BxkNY9Z5yX2y2EGW5tvxFrU9RyvU=; b=t3+M3CVgW44CjSJYbdDrAimAocFziIoiAZUe7/C/54kaKl3uAmsAIo/UCKR642doLD F7B3qp6bGTAWDx1OeiymWLoVMLtW/HvXsqugNdTgslQlIPdmKRL1u1lJBKFTqSvKGzz2 X392rDYwAVYjvv7DVesBC5Cfx2ZszQQ9T2hAQnF2i7z/cNGXyVkVRdHARbhGItojMtNV QThNbcMehvuCImTBQH1FL5bI41MskIZ4r2z89z37ZdLqJVSUkxVY9JkLNpT1zqqx5U7H r8dlLsJ0RnBvEOhIiK3jpvOcBTFS3h0tVPje6rb9r+AU3020jYeth5m8Og21KS5SEjbZ jHMg== X-Received: by 10.107.47.152 with SMTP id v24mr12506423iov.180.1439022722564; Sat, 08 Aug 2015 01:32:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.8.81 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:31:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <829C0C81-E815-4276-912B-D8D8E2A95BEC@apache.org> From: Ted Dunning Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 01:31:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Point3: Growing the community To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137a44833cc0e051cc896bd --001a1137a44833cc0e051cc896bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 They might well work for that. On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann wrote: > In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get messy after > a while. > So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think that > there's a place for them for quick collaboration. > Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would be > suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well? > > On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Be cautious a bit here. The wikis that are available at Apache tend to be >> a bit cumbersome. >> >> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as mark-down which >> are automatically rendered. This makes it easy to make updates and even >> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki. On the other hand, >> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast. >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann wrote: >> >> I've created a request ( >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090 >>> ), >>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Till >>> >>> >>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote: >>> >>> +1 for wiki! >>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-) >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one (and it's >>>>> >>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this). >>>>>> Would you agree? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Till >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for different >>>>>>> internal >>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt that I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it perfectly. Let's >>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi < >>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to address before >>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted to join >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing. Getting >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> acquainted >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers and I >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> we >>>>>> >>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the ancient past >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was it?). I am >>>>>>>> aware >>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new features, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> running >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work towards >>>>>> >>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> in small steps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that document >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a chance to >>>>>> >>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation >>>>>>>> branch?). >>>>>>>> Once >>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new area of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> code, >>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should eventually get >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia >>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science >>>>>>> University of California, Irvine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ----------------- >>>> Best Regards >>>> >>>> Jianfeng Jia >>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science >>>> University of California, Irvine >>>> >>>> >>> --001a1137a44833cc0e051cc896bd--