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Subject: Re: Point3: Growing the community
From: Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:33:33 -0700
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> On Aug 11, 2015, at 00:54, Heri Ramampiaro <heriram@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Till:
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> My Confluence id is =E2=80=9Cheriram=E2=80=9D.
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> Thanks,
> -heri
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>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
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>> Thanks!
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>> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please re=
gister at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <https://cwiki.a=
pache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your user name so that we c=
an add it to our Wiki space.
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>> Cheers,
>> Till
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>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com> wrote:=

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>>> Done.
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>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:=

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>>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
>>>> But I=E2=80=99m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
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>>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Till
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>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>> My username is Jianfeng
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wro=
te:
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>>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get messy
>>>> after
>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think tha=
t
>>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
>>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would be=

>>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache tend t=
o
>>>> be
>>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as mark-down=

>>>> which
>>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates and
>>>> even
>>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the other=

>>>> hand,
>>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>> I've created a request (
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-1009=
0
>>>>>>>> ),
>>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
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>>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>=

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one (and i=
t's
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
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>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
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>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark=

>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for different
>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history debt that I=

>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish it perfectly.=

>>>> Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue to address
>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two members wanted to=

>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing. Getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
>>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers and I=

>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised in the ancien=
t
>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor (Who was it?). I=
 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working on new feature=
s,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still work
>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline of how that
>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have a chanc=
e
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time in a new area=
 of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we should eventuall=
y
>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> --
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --=20
>>>=20
>>> -----------------
>>> Best Regards
>>>=20
>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>> University of California, Irvine
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