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From Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Point3: Growing the community
Date Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:44:08 GMT
Thanks!

For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your user name so that
we can add it to our Wiki space.

Cheers,
Till

> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Done.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
>> 
>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Till
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Till,
>>> My username is Jianfeng
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to get messy
>> after
>>>> a while.
>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But I think that
>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case) would be
>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at Apache tend to
>> be
>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages as mark-down
>> which
>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make updates and
>> even
>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.  On the other
>> hand,
>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've created a request (
>>>>>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
>>>>>> ),
>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi <
>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single man job :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be easy to get one
(and it's
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something like this).
>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different pages for
different
>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill it. (It's a history
debt that I
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some days to finish
it perfectly.
>> Let's
>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM, abdullah alamoudi
<
>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report, the 3rd issue
to address
>> before
>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB community.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator, at least two
members wanted to
>> join
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only to end up disappearing.
Getting
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult task for new comers
and I
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and someone promised
in the ancient
>> past
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for new contributor
(Who was it?). I am
>>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing issues, working
on new features,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but we can still
work
>> towards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone create an outline
of how that
>> document
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where we all have
a chance
>> to
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website in the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody spends some time
in a new area of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the document and we
should eventually
>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> -----------------
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>> University of California, Irvine
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> -----------------
> Best Regards
> 
> Jianfeng Jia
> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
> University of California, Irvine


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