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From Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Point3: Growing the community
Date Sun, 09 Aug 2015 18:33:24 GMT
Added as well.

I agree that it’d be good to move the information from the Google doc to Confluence.
I think that this should be a new page and that we should add a link to the new page on the
“Developer Resources” page.
What so you think?

Thanks,
Till

> On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Keren Ouaknine <kereno@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I signed up too. My username is kereno.
> 
> I have a Google docs on the Algebricks rules:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k14m-5GGn1ppw_w2WBWmcnpiV3Nx4QB8ZtT-3Kuqey0/edit
> 
> @Till, I am thinking Confluence might be a good spot for that information.
> What do you think?
> 
> Thanks,
> Keren
> 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> added.
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Taewoo Kim <wangsaeu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> @Till: my Confluence ID is "wangsaeu". Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Taewoo
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> For everybody else: if you want to write something on the Wiki, please
>>>> register at https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action <
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action> and send out your
>> user
>>>> name so that we can add it to our Wiki space.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Till
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:34 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Done.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, we got the Wiki:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ASTERIXDB/Asterix+DB
>>>>>> But I’m not an administrator - but Jianfeng is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> @Jianfeng, could you add me (tillw) as an administrator?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 1:06 AM, Jianfeng Jia <jianfeng.jia@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>> My username is Jianfeng
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In general I'm also not a big fan of Wikis as they tend to
get messy
>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> a while.
>>>>>>>> So I wouldn't necessarily use them for documentation. But
I think
>> that
>>>>>>>> there's a place for them for quick collaboration.
>>>>>>>> Do you think that the Apache Wikis (confluence in this case)
would
>> be
>>>>>>>> suited for that or would that be cumbersome as well?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:46, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Be cautious a bit here.  The wikis that are available at
Apache tend
>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> a bit cumbersome.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Some projects have lately opted to simply storing pages
as
>> mark-down
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> are automatically rendered.  This makes it easy to make
updates and
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> have outsiders contributed, but not as easy as a wiki.
 On the
>> other
>>>>>> hand,
>>>>>>>>> it is more reliable and serves pages very fast.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've created a request (
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/agent/INFRA/issue/INFRA-10090
>>>>>>>>>> ),
>>>>>>>>>> hopefully the information I provided is sufficient.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Aug 2015, at 0:11, Jianfeng Jia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1 for wiki!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:09 AM, abdullah alamoudi
<
>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with both of you. This is not a single
man job :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Till Westmann
<
>> tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have a wiki yet, but it should be
easy to get one (and
>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably the right tool to do something
like this).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you agree?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2015, at 23:59, Jianfeng Jia
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you guys like the Wiki? like the Spark's:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPARK/Contributing+to+Spark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can create a skeleton, create different
pages for different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components, and *gradually* fill
it. (It's a history debt
>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think some guy can spend just some
days to finish it
>> perfectly.
>>>>>> Let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crowdsource it. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:04 PM,
abdullah alamoudi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bamousaa@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the August 2015 incubator report,
the 3rd issue to address
>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation is growing the AsterixDB
community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we entered the incubator,
at least two members wanted
>> to
>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community and contribute only
to end up disappearing. Getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acquainted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the codebase seems like a difficult
task for new comers
>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should make it a little bit easier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this is long overdue and
someone promised in the
>> ancient
>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prepare an entry document for
new contributor (Who was it?).
>> I
>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we all are busy addressing
issues, working on new
>>>> features,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> some experiments, writing a paper, etc. but
we can still work
>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in small steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion is that someone
create an outline of how that
>>>>>> document
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be and then publish it in some location where
we all have a
>> chance
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute (Maybe the AsterixDB website
in the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branch?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have that, whenever somebody
spends some time in a new
>> area
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should contribute to the
document and we should
>> eventually
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Amoudi, Abdullah.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----------------
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jianfeng Jia
>>>>> Ph.D. Candidate of Computer Science
>>>>> University of California, Irvine
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Keren Ouaknine
> www.kereno.com


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