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From Ian Maxon <ima...@uci.edu>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Tue, 12 May 2015 19:56:44 GMT
Hi TIll,
I went ahead and added the users list info to the Readme, please +2 if it
looks OK: https://asterix-gerrit.ics.uci.edu/#/c/258/

Thanks,
- Ian

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:

> I’ve also added this list to our incubation status page [1].
>
> @Ian, could you add the new list to the readme when you update it again?
>
> Cheers,
> Till
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html <
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html>
>
> > On May 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org <mailto:
> tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> > users@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> users@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org> is available now.
> > Please subscribe to it, so that we can close the old list down.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Till
> >
> >> On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org <mailto:
> tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form at [1].
> >> The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike and I).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Till
> >>
> >> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator <
> https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator>
> >>
> >>> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com <mailto:
> dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Cool!
> >>>
> >>> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> >>>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see
> candidate
> >>>> messages in email with links to accept or reject.  Reply with no
> >>>> modifications works to accept the message.  Reply-all accepts the
> message
> >>>> and whitelists the sender.
> >>>>
> >>>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted.
> >>>>
> >>>> Super simple and fast.  The only obscure part is the the reply-all
> trick.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com
> <mailto:dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I could do it as well.  (Does it just entail saying "this note may
> indeed
> >>>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m
> >>>>>> volunteering to be another moderator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are there other volunteers?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> <mailto:ted.dunning@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather
than
> fewer.
> >>>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation
traffic to
> be
> >>>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators
is very,
> very
> >>>>>>> low.
> >>>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it
it higher,
> I
> >>>>>>> think,
> >>>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this.
> >>>>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators
for
> the
> >>>>>>>> list.
> >>>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the
other lists.
> >>>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members
> moderate as
> >>>>>>>> well?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the
users list.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann
<tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:tillw@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision
that has no impact
> outside
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC
members (mentors +
> >>>>>>>> initial
> >>>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue,
we could
> take
> >>>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your
proposal is
> accepted,
> >>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Till
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
<
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com
> <mailto:dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose
now that we close
> in on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this
one. I realize
> there are
> >>>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already
who are
> decidedly
> >>>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to
have a list
> "for
> >>>>>>>> them"
> >>>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and
volume).  Is
> there a
> >>>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those
that get
> to
> >>>>>>>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study in a
> post-joining-incubation
> >>>>>>>> decision. :-))
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49
AM, Till Westmann <
> tillw@apache.org <mailto:tillw@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently
have one
> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and
the discussions are at a
> >>>>>>>> user-level.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list,
so
> developers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not
necessarily the other way
> >>>>>>>> around.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single
list would
> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
> >>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated
notifications, like Jira
> issues,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those
to a user list?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>

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