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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Mon, 04 May 2015 00:08:20 GMT
the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate
messages in email with links to accept or reject.  Reply with no
modifications works to accept the message.  Reply-all accepts the message
and whitelists the sender.

If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted.

Super simple and fast.  The only obscure part is the the reply-all trick.



On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com> wrote:

> I could do it as well.  (Does it just entail saying "this note may indeed
> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?)
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote:
>
>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m
>> volunteering to be another moderator.
>>
>> Are there other volunteers?
>>
>>  On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer.
>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be
>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very
>>> low.
>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I
>>> think,
>>> than the load on a number of moderators.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this.
>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the
>>>> list.
>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists.
>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as
>>>> well?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Till
>>>>
>>>>  On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Till
>>>>>
>>>>>  On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact outside
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors +
>>>> initial
>>>> committer) are those who get to decide.
>>>>
>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted,
>>>> if
>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close
in on a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there
are
>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly
>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for
>>>> them"
>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume).  Is there a
>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to
>>>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study in a post-joining-incubation
>>>> decision. :-))
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are
at a
>>>> user-level.
>>>>
>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other
way
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like
Jira issues,
>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jochen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>

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