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From Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Wed, 13 May 2015 00:17:09 GMT
Thanks!

Do you want to use use the UCI or the Apache e-mail address?


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ian Maxon <imaxon@uci.edu> wrote:

> If I'm not already a moderator I'd be happy to volunteer...
>
> - Ian
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > We currently have 7 moderators, so I think that we can just take you out
> > (I guess that requires and infra-request, is that right?).
> >
> > On the other hand I would be more than happy if we found another
> volunteer
> > moderator!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Till
> >
> > > On May 11, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Jochen Wiedmann <
> jochen.wiedmann@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd welcome to have another volunteer to replace me as a moderator.
> > > (As this would be my 9th or 10th list to moderate.) As Till wrote,
> > > list moderation isn't much of a burden. OTOH, it accumulates...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jochen
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >> Just found a link to the self-subscribe app [1] for committers on the
> > mailing lists page [2].
> > >> The mailing lists for podlings are at the end of the (long!) dropdown.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Till
> > >>
> > >> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe <
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe>
> > >> [2] http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html <
> > http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html>
> > >>
> > >>> On May 11, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I’ve also added this list to our incubation status page [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> @Ian, could you add the new list to the readme when you update it
> > again?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Till
> > >>>
> > >>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html <
> > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On May 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:
> > tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> users@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> > users@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org> is available now.
> > >>>> Please subscribe to it, so that we can close the old list down.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Till
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> <mailto:
> > tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form
at [1].
> > >>>>> The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike
and
> I).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>> Till
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator <
> > https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com
> <mailto:
> > dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cool!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> > >>>>>>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators
see
> > candidate
> > >>>>>>> messages in email with links to accept or reject. 
Reply with no
> > >>>>>>> modifications works to accept the message.  Reply-all
accepts the
> > message
> > >>>>>>> and whitelists the sender.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the
message is
> > deleted.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Super simple and fast.  The only obscure part is the
the
> reply-all
> > trick.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com
> > <mailto:dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I could do it as well.  (Does it just entail saying
"this note
> > may indeed
> > >>>>>>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be
trying to watch?)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to
do it that way, I’m
> > >>>>>>>>> volunteering to be another moderator.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Are there other volunteers?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <
> ted.dunning@gmail.com
> > <mailto:ted.dunning@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more
moderators rather
> > than fewer.
> > >>>>>>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount
of moderation
> traffic
> > to be
> > >>>>>>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on
the moderators is
> > very, very
> > >>>>>>>>>> low.
> > >>>>>>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without
quite knowing it it
> > higher, I
> > >>>>>>>>>> think,
> > >>>>>>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann
<
> tillw@apache.org
> > <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to
request this.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But before we do it the right way,
we need a few moderators
> > for the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators
for the other
> > lists.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should
other PPMC members
> > moderate as
> > >>>>>>>>>>> well?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Till
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann
<tillw@apache.org
> > <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Till
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till
Westmann <tillw@apache.org
> > <mailto:tillw@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected,
I’ll ask for the users list.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM,
Till Westmann <
> > tillw@apache.org <mailto:tillw@apache.org>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural
decision that has no
> impact
> > outside
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think
that the PPMC members
> > (mentors +
> > >>>>>>>>>>> initial
> > >>>>>>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly
contested issue, we
> > could take
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus
[1], i.e. your proposal is
> > accepted,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> if
> > >>>>>>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
<
> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09,
Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com
> > <mailto:dtabass@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions,
I'd like to propose now that we
> > close in on a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user"
- answer to this one. I realize
> > there are
> > >>>>>>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some
users already who are
> > decidedly
> > >>>>>>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming
- I'd like to have a
> > list "for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> them"
> > >>>>>>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by
its topics and volume).
> > Is there a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision
by those that
> > get to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study
in a
> > post-joining-incubation
> > >>>>>>>>>>> decision. :-))
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM,
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr
22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <
> > tillw@apache.org <mailto:tillw@apache.org>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that
I want one. We currently have
> > one and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable
traffic and the discussions are
> at
> > a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> user-level.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed
to the user-list, so
> > developers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user
problems but not necessarily the other
> > way
> > >>>>>>>>>>> around.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well,
but maybe a single list
> would
> > work
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB
developers?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically
generated notifications, like
> > Jira issues,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages,
etc.?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend
to push those to a user list?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Any world that can produce the Taj Mahal, William Shakespeare,
> > > and Stripe toothpaste can't be all bad. (C.R. MacNamara, One Two Three)
> >
> >
>

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