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From Till Westmann <ti...@apache.org>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Sun, 03 May 2015 20:11:02 GMT
I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m volunteering to be another
moderator.

Are there other volunteers?

> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer.
> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be
> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very low.
> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I think,
> than the load on a number of moderators.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this.
>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the list.
>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists.
>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as well?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Till
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Till
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Till
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact outside
>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + initial
>> committer) are those who get to decide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take
>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted, if
>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Till
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close in on
a
>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there are
>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly
>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for them"
>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume).  Is there a
>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to
>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study in a post-joining-incubation
>> decision. :-))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have
one and
>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a user-level.
>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers
>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way around.
>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would
work
>> better.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira issues,
>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jochen
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


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