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From Mike Carey <dtab...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Mon, 04 May 2015 06:41:21 GMT
Cool!

On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate
> messages in email with links to accept or reject.  Reply with no
> modifications works to accept the message.  Reply-all accepts the message
> and whitelists the sender.
>
> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted.
>
> Super simple and fast.  The only obscure part is the the reply-all trick.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I could do it as well.  (Does it just entail saying "this note may indeed
>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m
>>> volunteering to be another moderator.
>>>
>>> Are there other volunteers?
>>>
>>>   On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer.
>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be
>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very
>>>> low.
>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I
>>>> think,
>>>> than the load on a number of moderators.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this.
>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the
>>>>> list.
>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists.
>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as
>>>>> well?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Till
>>>>>
>>>>>   On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact
outside
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors
+
>>>>> initial
>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take
>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted,
>>>>> if
>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we
close in on a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize
there are
>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly
>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for
>>>>> them"
>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume).  Is there
a
>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to
>>>>> decide?  (This will be our first case-study in a post-joining-incubation
>>>>> decision. :-))
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann
<tillw@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one
and
>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions
are at a
>>>>> user-level.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers
>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the
other way
>>>>> around.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work
>>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications,
like Jira issues,
>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jochen
>>>>>>>>>>


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