Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3FE617E3E for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65451 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 05:14:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-asterixdb-dev-archive@asterixdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 65410 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 05:14:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65399 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2015 05:14:53 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:14:53 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [54.191.145.13] (HELO mx1-us-west.apache.org) (54.191.145.13) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:14:48 +0000 Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with SMTP id AC475251AF for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60662 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2015 05:13:13 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:13:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.81] (c-50-174-102-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [50.174.102.44]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 0704F1A0094; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 05:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Migration of git repository Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C0F0CC71-5564-494D-AE6F-D882F324988C" From: Till Westmann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:13:12 -0700 Cc: Michael Carey , Chris Hillery , Ian Maxon , Yingyi Bu , "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org" Message-Id: References: <4D16706C-FB89-45F3-8909-D13A076696E5@westmann.org> <553671A7.7040801@ics.uci.edu> To: "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_C0F0CC71-5564-494D-AE6F-D882F324988C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Ok, let=E2=80=99s find out what is the =E2=80=9Cmore work=E2=80=9D part = before we decide :) We should already have the SGA (as it=E2=80=99s part of the SGA that = Mike sent in) and it seemed to me that all we=E2=80=99re need to do = =E2=80=9Clater=E2=80=9D (e.g. next week/month) would be to a) vote on bringing it into AsterixDB (that would be an incubator vote I = assume) and=20 b) asking infra for another git repository. So the extra work would be the vote on the incubator list. Is that right or is there something else we=E2=80=99d need to do? Cheers, Till > On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) = wrote: >=20 > Hey Mike and team, >=20 > Thanks for bringing this to the list. I think these are precisely > the type of conversations that we want to have here at the ASF and > as part of our Incubating project. Having these discussions in the > community here at the ASF (which is now the Apache AsterixDB = community) > is great. >=20 > My opinion - it=E2=80=99s fine either way. I=E2=80=99m happy if you = guys want to > bring Pregelix into the code base here via AsterixDB. It=E2=80=99s = easily > reversible and incremental. If you want to spin out Pregelix later > as its own TLP and it=E2=80=99s shown to have its own community we can > file a board resolution to do that. Heck, nothing stops us from > graduating 2 Incubator projects=3D>TLPs out of this effort even in > the Incubator. That=E2=80=99s fine. If you want to wait and bring it = in > later, it will definitely be more work - so let=E2=80=99s call a spade = a > spade there. But if you want to do that that=E2=80=99s fine too. >=20 > My personal recommendation - bring it in - won=E2=80=99t hurt and we = can > always pivot in the ways above later. >=20 > Cheers, > Chris >=20 >=20 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Chief Architect > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ = > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Carey > > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM > To: Chris Mattmann >, Till Westmann > > > Cc: Chris Hillery >, = Ian Maxon >, Yingyi > Bu >, = "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org = " > > > Subject: Re: Migration of git repository >=20 >> Sure! Let me clarify the issue for everyone (and broaden the = question). >>=20 >> One of the technical by-products of the AsterixDB project is a graph >> analytics package called Pregelix - as the name suggests, it is a = "knock >> off" of Pregel, as are packages like Giraph. What's unique about >> Pregelix is that it actually scales without OOM'ing >> - under the covers it uses database join processing techniques. You = can >> find out more about it by visiting >> http://pregelix.ics.uci.edu/ and/or by skimming the attached paper - >> check out the experimental results compared to other popular >> alternatives. Anyway, we have made it freely available (as we do all = of >> our AsterixDB-related >> research products) and we were thinking that we should simply include = it >> under the AsterixDB project - kind of like Spark has subprojects for = SQL, >> streams, graphs, etc. As a result, I listed it on the list of >> transferred artifacts when I sent in the licensing >> form the other day. (So we at least have that step done.) Its code >> conntributors have been a small subset of the AsterixDB team; it was = a >> small sub-project, basically. (Mostly just Yingyi Bu!) >>=20 >> Pregelix is kind of a sibling of Apache VXQuery in that its runtime = is >> based on Hyracks but it hasn't otherwise been AsterixDB-dependent. >> However, we have just finished teaching it to read/write directly = from >> AsterixDB native storage - instead of just HDFS >> - so now it has an AsterixDB dependency, and we are using it as a >> driving example of how to couple AsterixDB to other analytic engines. >>=20 >> Rather than going through another exercise to open-source this >> separately, it seemed like we could take this approach. >>=20 >> Thoughts? >> Cheers, >> Mike >>=20 >>=20 >> On 4/21/15 7:45 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> Yes, in fact, this whole conversations should be happening on >> the dev list. OK for me to CC them on my reply? >>=20 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >> Chief Architect >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Michael J. Carey" >> > >> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:13 AM >> To: Till Westmann > = > >> Cc: Chris Hillery > = >, Ian >> Maxon > >, Yingyi >> Bu > = >, Chris Mattmann >> > = > >> Subject: Re: Migration of git repository >>=20 >> + Yingyi on the Pregelix Q. Should we also ask Chris M for advice on >> that? >> On Apr 20, 2015 4:23 PM, "Till Westmann" > >> > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Ian, >>=20 >>=20 >> That=E2=80=99s a good question - and I don=E2=80=99t know the answer. >> We=E2=80=99ve got 2 repos so far: >> = https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9212https://issues.apache.org/= = >> jira/browse/INFRA-9306 >> so we should have space for Hyracks and AsterixDB. >>=20 >>=20 >> I think that there=E2=80=99s an open questions about Pregelix, but = maybe that >> shouldn=E2=80=99t keep us from going ahead. >>=20 >>=20 >> I further think that it would be great if you could send an e-mail to >> dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org = >> rg> > and ask if it=E2=80=99s ok = to >> import >> our git repo(s) or if something else needs to be done first. (I could >> send that e-mail as well, but it would be great if there were more >> non-Till e0mails on the list :) ) >>=20 >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Till >>=20 >>=20 >> On Apr 20, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Ian Maxon > >> > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Mike, Chris and Till, >>=20 >>=20 >> Since (I think?) the paperwork for the software grant is done now, = should >> I copy our GC branches over to the ASF git repositories now ( as well = as >> making it a mirror in the Gerrit commit hook script)? >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, >> - Ian --Apple-Mail=_C0F0CC71-5564-494D-AE6F-D882F324988C--