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From Mike Carey <dtab...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: users and dev lists
Date Wed, 22 Apr 2015 08:45:53 GMT
Indeed - @others, please chime in based on previous AsterixDB list 
experiences?  I can go either way on this, but was thinking it might be 
nicer for our "normal users" to not be spammed with any implementation 
discussions.  (But we don't have a huge set of those yet, obviously - 
but we do have some, and have segregated the conversations.)

On 4/22/15 12:49 AM, Till Westmann wrote:
> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and it has some reasonable
traffic and the discussions are at a user-level.
> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers are aware of user
problems but not necessarily the other way around.
> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work better.
>
> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers?
>
> Thanks,
> Till
>
>
>> On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
wrote:
>>
>> +1, absolutely as Ted said, mine is just a recommendation.
>> If you want the users@ list, decide as a community (so far,
>> seems like Mike and Till wanted one?) and we can ask for one.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Chief Architect
>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org"
>> <dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:04 AM
>> To: "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org"
>> <dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: users and dev lists
>>
>>> Most incubator projects don't come in with either a user community or high
>>> traffic on the dev list.  Thus the default recommendation for a single
>>> list.
>>>
>>> It is a bit up to you guys.  You heard the suggestion from Chris.  You
>>> know
>>> your own situation.
>>>
>>> The question is what will grow your community most effectively.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Mike Carey <dtabass@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For our pre-ASF lists, we split them for the opposite reason - because
>>>> there was so much dev-related traffic and we didn't want to burden our
>>>> non-dev users with all of that noise.  Thoughts on that?
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/15 5:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My advice, based on past experience, is to not split the lists
>>>>> initially upon Incubation. It splinters the community. If you need
>>>>> to split it b/c there is so much user related traffic later, I would
>>>>> do it then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>> Chief Architect
>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
>>>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Till Westmann <tillw@apache.org>
>>>>> Reply-To: "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org"
>>>>> <dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 7:16 PM
>>>>> To: "dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org"
>>>>> <dev@asterixdb.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: users and dev lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> we currently have users and dev lists for AsterixDB (outside of the
>>>>>> ASF)
>>>>>> and we actually have users that are not developers on the users list.
>>>>>> At the ASF we currently don’t have a users-list and I’m wondering
if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> should leave it that way or if we should add a users lists to
>>>>>> (hopefully)
>>>>>> migrate our current users to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts/Preferences?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>


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