Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-aries-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-aries-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A19429DD7 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 16:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76337 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2011 16:10:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-aries-dev-archive@aries.apache.org Received: (qmail 76302 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2011 16:10:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@aries.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@aries.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@aries.apache.org Received: (qmail 76293 invoked by uid 99); 3 Oct 2011 16:10:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:10:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.136.44.61] (HELO smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (98.136.44.61) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:10:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 76582 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2011 16:09:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=2wQ1YQqi56WfkMyTguxMpGU8zcAHeKRUq/ueCufDWJ9dx0XFihNaJwsJKJxpQ7eiGVpf/AJQtM1LiFyG4etbkDAAoVBelJmvKofyVRSl/bGIJWIbm1m7i2iMozcI914KpodrWERk7M/YsY2uCq0jzXTqmmK+cZFBf46K/8/+wdc= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1317658195; bh=/L2VAvt62a6R3zMdoit6LMnlyNGWI75imrazRYwCzxM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=GjIAUT08jvsTjhiaNsX8sPDrnRVzwl/pQO4VbM1Q03Kakh0mDDRl7+flZIVj+Z72MwLXcpgi98SrbGZyfkCMqoZ8Eo4znPWLEIXK8yZOJIIbDNji50Xucn6dJEjetSXRmOZkYOyCH3MNC1y2bsfhEc9x9B56axTuiE8Fwa5KWYE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 3L6mCywVM1ngEZEvDatwyakE__BK6tG0S99QFwvoVQWcUZd 3nF6_sss7MxIRQ.ZhDXv3orcy6PplMe3LKzY61plSYr9PX6NikX0TDttJVe2 FiBBnHWrJCtqOpXDSjb_lcIgEojY878_o7_qrY1q8Gc3RIs032NcorpD1G2Z nlqfTMmJMACqEjj2JVVndKg4AYfQTpiWgeZNPABlw3uApVzVj5c4emQ7XkiJ cKe2smxpRLjgpFBc5_a._gnQJ27JnevCiCVdZ2bCCtABBdcUmaj9RN7tTmk3 uTcB6KwrhZasW1Cga8nZdtsaqVTKQSR.tKytjOcGQzrXRKP_iUhHtJEbx2m8 x7Cdvw51C.SuL6ztCF2xXNqMsWbxsGvfgfcwoPO5b3Ba6RAerJEEsaBx_CxU snIuBb.Xb2SZRX1icXHUPKGpZ0pXY8VPzQ5c- X-Yahoo-SMTP: .9oIUzyswBANsYgUm_5uPui0skTnzGJXJQ-- Received: from [10.0.1.4] (david_jencks@98.246.196.64 with plain) by smtp106.prem.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Oct 2011 09:09:54 -0700 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: DEPENDENCIES file From: David Jencks In-Reply-To: <76A35003-7686-4529-91A9-7672A9CAA6D4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:09:53 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6707C956-A04A-490F-ADCA-5A74E24C5058@yahoo.com> References: <76A35003-7686-4529-91A9-7672A9CAA6D4@gmail.com> To: dev@aries.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) I'm the origin of the DEPENDENCIES file generated by the = maven-remote-resources-plugin (before that the same info was being = mistakenly included in the generated NOTICE file) but for an osgi = project I think it is misleading and better dropped. It was supposed to = give you a hint about the other jars you'd probably want to use with the = jar with the DEPENDENCIES file, a function better served by package = imports and OBR. thanks david jencks On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: >=20 > On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: >=20 >> Hi Kevan, >>=20 >> On another thread (see bottom of this email) a few days ago you said: >>=20 >> "This archive contains DISCLAIMER and DEPENDENCIES files which are = not >> in the svn tag." >>=20 >> There doesn't seem to be consistency across Apache on whether to >> include the DEPENDENCIES file or not. What are the arguments for not >> including it? Certainly Apache Felix favour including it [1] >=20 > That's a decision of the Felix project. There's no ASF requirement for = such a file (ASF requirements are for a LICENSE/NOTICE file). If the = Aries project would find a DEPENDENCIES file useful, then by all means = include the file. If the file is useful, why only include in source = releases? Why not include the file in SVN? >=20 > In my experience, the DEPENDENDENCIES do not necessarily reflect the = artifacts that might be used in an actual runtime environment. = DEPENDENCIES for a jar/bundle are more useful than DEPENDENCIES for an = entire project... >=20 > I object to a DISCLAIMER file being included in any future Aries' = releases. I have no objection to DEPENDENCIES files -- just question = their utility. I probably wouldn't have mentioned DEPENDENCIES if I = wasn't mentioning DISCLAIMER... >=20 > --kevan