Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-license-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 51949 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:46 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 22:16:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 188 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-license-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 99983 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact license-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Reply-To: license@apache.org list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Precedence: bulk Delivered-To: mailing list license@apache.org Received: (qmail 99937 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hyperreal.org) (209.237.226.90) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 22:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2361 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:40 -0000 Received: from localhost.hyperreal.org (HELO fez.hyperreal.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 22:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 24315 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Jan 2004 22:16:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 22:16:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:16:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Behlendorf X-X-Sender: brian@fez.hyperreal.org To: license@apache.org Subject: Re: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040107140658.A23429@fez.hyperreal.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Thank you all for your comments on the proposed license. I have > incorporated as much of the changes as possible and posted a new > version on the site > > http://www.apache.org/licenses/proposed/ This is *almost* perfect. I'm worried about the definition of "Contribution" and section 5, as it pertains to someone making a Contribution that is actually someone else's "original work", but which carries a license that allows the code to be contributed. I propose the following diff, leaving paragraph justification to a later change for clarity, and removing what seems like a redundant statement in section 5, since "should" would never be accurate anyways - either you must not, or there are certain conditions under which you may. And it has the nice side-effect of stripping out 16 more words. :) Index: LICENSE-2.0.txt =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/site/docs/licenses/proposed/LICENSE-2.0.txt,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -r1.23 LICENSE-2.0.txt 60c60 < "Contribution" shall mean any original work of authorship, including --- > "Contribution" shall mean any work of authorship, including 148,149c148 < with Licensor regarding such Contributions. You should not submit < as a "Contribution" any work that is not Your original creation. --- > with Licensor regarding such Contributions. Since I believe this license is compatible with the GPL, and I believe we have hashed this out quite a bit and addressed the best possible position between a number of proposed alternatives, I am prepared (whether or not my change is adopted) to make a proposal to the board to officially endorse these new licenses at the next Board meeting, which is January 21st. That will bring this very long process to a close. Speak up now, with clear and as-concise-as-possible proposed last-minute changes. Brian