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Subject: Re: Time for APR 2.0?
From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:02:41 -0400
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To: Noel Butler <noel.butler@ausics.net>


> On Aug 27, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler@ausics.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> =20
>> That's why I want us to extend cmake to do the unix build as well.
>>=20
>> =20
>> =20
> The biggest bitch I here from *nix/bsd system admins  everywhere is =
cmake, the largest bitch is people know how to use --with-foo --with-bar =
 now after decades, THEY, the people you expect to use your software, =
have to learn it no longer works that way, I know of multinationals =
change software because of cmake, I've seen a well known large =
international issue a policy that they will remain on old unsupported =
versions of mysql because they moved to cmake.
>=20
> autoconf et al, might be ol school, but every man, woman, and dog =
knows and understands it, and its more than time proven, I've heard that =
cmake is an in thing for windows stuff (I dont use any windaz anywhere =
in our ops), but have you seen the stats on windows servers V *nix/bsd =
lately, cmake may or may not be nicer for devs, but devs rarely manage =
any large number of servers outside of their own build vm numbers, so =
I'd think twice before changing unless you keep ol school as well.
>=20
> I for one, consider it a PITA as well, thats my opinion anyway.

Mine as well..., fwiw.=