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From Jeff Trawick <traw...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: why do we need this pain?
Date Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:32:13 GMT
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf <fuankg@apache.org> wrote:
>> Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer:
>>>
>>> For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To
>>> header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of
>>> the message.
>>
>> the list *is* the originator since it sends the mail to me, and not you
>
> No. The list is a distribution mechanism.
>
> Adjusting the Reply-To means that I cannot directly email the author.
> I need to cut/paste their email address, but that might not be right.
> They may have set a Reply-To on where they really wanted replies. If a
> mailing list alters it, then information is lost.
>
>> personally, so this is probably again something to discuss ...
>> though I really dont want to start flame wars now about if an RFC expresses
>> things right or if its practical; for too many others its not practical and
>> I think that counts. I have to deal with a bunch of other mailing lists, and
>> with all I can just hit 'reply' without having to care about, so its really
>
> I hit "reply" or I hit "reply to all". Simple. It works all the time
> on lists without a reply-to set.
>
> On lists *with* reply-to set, then I need to cut/paste to get a
> message only to the author. Fuck that.
>
>> anoying that I have to care about with this one list - and in fact what
>> happens is that I always 1st spam the original author before I realize after
>> a while that I didnt hit the list (even just now happened). Also I find it
>> equally annoying that I always get 2 identical mails from such lists: one
>> via list, and one directly from author;
>
> And I see only one. Get a real MUA.
>
>> not to mention other spamming
>> effects such that the reciepient's mailer collects my mail address
>> automatically (probably as default setting, and without knowing by the
>> user), and in case of a virus attack my address is amongst those harvested
>> by the virus ...
>
> Now you're just making shit up. Your address always come through the
> mailing list. The only topic here is what sits in the Reply-To field,
> not the Sender or the From or the envelope.
>
> Oh boo hoo, you can't reply to the list with just Reply. Get over it.
> Hit "reply to all" and you'll be fine.

I just love it when people get all rude for no reason at all.

Oh please be rude to me too, Greg!!!  Here goes:  "I hate reply-all as
well because I always end up having to fix the To: and yank out the
duplicate recipients with my mail client."

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