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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: why do we need this pain?
Date Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:52:33 GMT
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 20:01, Guenter Knauf <fuankg@apache.org> wrote:
> Am 07.10.2010 01:36, schrieb Mike Meyer:
>>
>> For the record - I'm against the change. RFC 2823 says the Reply-To
>> header is an originator field, and the list is *not* the originator of
>> the message.
>
> the list *is* the originator since it sends the mail to me, and not you

No. The list is a distribution mechanism.

Adjusting the Reply-To means that I cannot directly email the author.
I need to cut/paste their email address, but that might not be right.
They may have set a Reply-To on where they really wanted replies. If a
mailing list alters it, then information is lost.

> personally, so this is probably again something to discuss ...
> though I really dont want to start flame wars now about if an RFC expresses
> things right or if its practical; for too many others its not practical and
> I think that counts. I have to deal with a bunch of other mailing lists, and
> with all I can just hit 'reply' without having to care about, so its really

I hit "reply" or I hit "reply to all". Simple. It works all the time
on lists without a reply-to set.

On lists *with* reply-to set, then I need to cut/paste to get a
message only to the author. Fuck that.

> anoying that I have to care about with this one list - and in fact what
> happens is that I always 1st spam the original author before I realize after
> a while that I didnt hit the list (even just now happened). Also I find it
> equally annoying that I always get 2 identical mails from such lists: one
> via list, and one directly from author;

And I see only one. Get a real MUA.

> not to mention other spamming
> effects such that the reciepient's mailer collects my mail address
> automatically (probably as default setting, and without knowing by the
> user), and in case of a virus attack my address is amongst those harvested
> by the virus ...

Now you're just making shit up. Your address always come through the
mailing list. The only topic here is what sits in the Reply-To field,
not the Sender or the From or the envelope.

Oh boo hoo, you can't reply to the list with just Reply. Get over it.
Hit "reply to all" and you'll be fine.

Cheers,
-g

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