Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74781 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 15:08:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 15:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 85251 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2010 15:07:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 85188 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2010 15:07:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@apr.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 85181 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2010 15:07:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:07:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of minfrin@sharp.fm designates 72.32.122.20 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.32.122.20] (HELO chandler.sharp.fm) (72.32.122.20) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:07:31 +0000 Received: from chandler.sharp.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chandler.sharp.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EF7780F5; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:07:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from [172.31.121.129] (unknown [212.58.232.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: minfrin@sharp.fm) by chandler.sharp.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1101780BD; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:07:09 -0600 (CST) Cc: dev@apr.apache.org Message-Id: <2319527B-7107-42C4-A315-22D58D328D3F@sharp.fm> From: Graham Leggett To: "William A. Rowe Jr." In-Reply-To: <4B9660E9.8060009@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: svn commit: r920017 - in /apr/apr/branches/1.4.x: ./ file_io/unix/open.c include/apr_file_io.h Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:07:08 +0200 References: <20100307152436.70C7A23888DD@eris.apache.org> <63818FB9-89D1-44D9-883D-A0B6A6DE7AB2@sharp.fm> <60FE5ECF-9E7B-4BF8-AF5B-9A76FBA31D35@sharp.fm> <7E6A163F-9782-4FF7-9F14-6C03E7CB7CE8@sharp.fm> <4B9660E9.8060009@rowe-clan.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 09 Mar 2010, at 4:53 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> In theory, when people try apr v1.5 for the first time, we're likely >> to find out. I suspect it may be worth assuming support is present, >> and then if it turns out that a platform that is still used doesn't >> support it, we can then reintroduce the ifdef (and ENOTIMPL). > > -1 veto, please revert the backport. > > If you are experimenting on users, can we please keep that activity to > trunk? Some of us here are committed to offering developers a stable > library of features they can count on. Thanks in advance. You're vetoing a patch that I haven't even written yet??? Based on us "experimenting" on a branch that hasn't been released yet??? What I was suggesting was to remove the #ifdef and make the assumption that O_NONBLOCK is supported on all unix platforms on apr v1.5, and fixing this assertion if it turns out to not be true *before* releasing v1.5.0. If you believe this is too onerous on users that's entirely fine, but then say so. There is no need to wave around a -1 in the air, I am perfectly happy to accept your objection without being bashed over the head with a veto. Regards, Graham --