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From EU EU MEMO SÓ <aleg...@fubacomagua.com.br>
Subject Re: Help with apr and apr-util
Date Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:28:43 GMT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Comstock" <steve@trainersfriend.com>
To: <dev@apr.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Help with apr and apr-util


> Branko Čibej wrote:
>> Steve Comstock wrote:
>>> but that's one reason I'm so pissed: apparently the version shipped
>>> with httpd is not the correct version. This would never be tolerated
>>> in the mainframe world.
>>
>> I beg your pardon? What is the "correct" version? As I see from our 
>> posts, you're for all practical purposes creating a new port of 
>> httpd/apr/apr-util. So while that bundled version of APR may not be 
>> correct for your particular platform, I don't really find that too 
>> surprising given the circumstances. Certainly lots of people have built 
>> httpd-2.2.9 and dependencies from the tarball on other systems.
>
> Well, from my perspective, I wanted to install the current Apache,
> httpd version 2.2.9; I downloaded the tarball and went through
> the install process as directed. Only to find the version of
> apr and apr-util included are apparently not in synch with
> the httpd in the same tarball. That's why I'm doing this: the
> configure of httpd aparently went OK, but the make failed, and
> someone told me it could be cured by installing the current
> version of apr and apr-util. That's my perspective of what's
> happening. I find it very surprising a bundled version of a
> subsystem would not be a good fit for a platform, especially
> if there is an appropriate fit available. Why wasnt apr-1.3.2
> included in the httpd-2.2.9 tarball, I guess is what I'm
> asking.
>
> I had never even heard about apr before this effort. It's the
> server I was after.
>
>
>>
>> But what do I know. I swore off mainframes when they started to implement 
>> POSIX-like subsystems in order that people could actually get anything 
>> done on them.
>
> Huh? People have gotten a lot of productive work on mainframes
> before POSIX-like things. z/OS now supports POSIX so that you
> can run classic mainframe work at the same time you are running
> UNIX type tasks. In fact, running under the shell you can
> access both UNIX files and classic MVS files from the same
> program. And, running outside of a shell, a program can access
> both classic MVS files and HFS files.
>
>
> Please remember that when I grew up in the business (starting
> in 1968(!)), working for IBM, UNIX was considered the enemy.
>
> Now, I'm trying to understand how the two worlds can work
> together and compliment each other. It's a fun journey!
>
> Also the local utility refused to lay in the
>> cable to power up my pet PDP-10 ...
>>
>
> Ah, well, if you're going to call a PDP-10 a mainframe... :-)
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> -Steve Comstock
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