Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 8991 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2005 05:15:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Oct 2005 05:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 90878 invoked by uid 500); 4 Oct 2005 05:15:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 90835 invoked by uid 500); 4 Oct 2005 05:15:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@apr.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 90824 invoked by uid 99); 4 Oct 2005 05:15:22 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:15:22 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of chip@force-elite.com designates 216.255.199.145 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.255.199.145] (HELO utopia.in.force-elite.com) (216.255.199.145) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:15:26 -0700 X-AuthUser: chip@force-elite.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (127.0.0.1:36284) by localhost with [XMail 1.17 (Linux/Ix86) ESMTP Server] id for from ; Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:14:58 -0700 Message-ID: <43420FD2.5070009@force-elite.com> Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:14:58 -0700 From: Paul Querna User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Macintosh/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Rowe, Jr." CC: dev@apr.apache.org Subject: Re: iconv - mistake #27? References: <43420C93.60602@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: <43420C93.60602@rowe-clan.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Well... it's pretty clear iconv has no more eyes than three, and half > of those are not project members. I would question 3 eyes at all. There is no doubt people use it in large numbers(win32?), and that in the past we had enough developers to support it, but there are not enough *active* developers right now. > So, guess it's time, I'd propose we VOTE to eliminate apr_xlate, and > iconv, from apr-util. Especially considering that the current iconv > implementations detected are more-likely-than-not GPL code, which then > infects APR. I am not sure what you mean by this. That when we depend on an GPL'ed iconv implementation it infects APR? AFAIK, Linux and OSX use the LGPL'ed libiconv..... > [ ] Drop xlate, drop iconv > [X] Retain xlate [implicit - personally -I- will support bsd-iconv] We have no choice until APR-Util 2.0. When we are ready for 2.0 for other reasons, I consider this a major issue that should be addressed at that point. -Paul