From dev-return-14177-apmail-apr-dev-archive=apr.apache.org@apr.apache.org Wed May 11 21:47:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74360 invoked from network); 11 May 2005 21:47:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 May 2005 21:47:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 41666 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 21:50:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-apr-dev-archive@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 41552 invoked by uid 500); 11 May 2005 21:50:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@apr.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@apr.apache.org Received: (qmail 41513 invoked by uid 99); 11 May 2005 21:50:56 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from rodney.concentric.net (HELO rodney.cnchost.com) (207.155.252.4) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 May 2005 14:50:56 -0700 Received: from rcsv650.rowe-clan.net (c-24-13-128-132.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.13.128.132]) by rodney.cnchost.com id RAA12643; Wed, 11 May 2005 17:47:04 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.17] Errors-To: Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050511164149.0653c310@pop3.rowe-clan.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:45:09 -0500 To: dev@httpd.apache.org From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." Subject: Re: Modifying Win32 default optimizations? Cc: dev@httpd.apache.org, Tomcat Developers List , dev@apr.apache.org In-Reply-To: <42827A95.9080409@xbc.nu> References: <6.2.1.2.2.20050511012115.07e92dd0@pop3.rowe-clan.net> <42820CB3.4060907@xbc.nu> <6.2.1.2.2.20050511103700.05dfb680@pop3.rowe-clan.net> <42827A95.9080409@xbc.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N At 04:35 PM 5/11/2005, Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: >William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >>If the open source community tends to push back on Microsoft's >>newest compilers, it's simply because their forced treadmill is >>the anathema of inclusiveness. >>=20 >That's what's happening right now with Subversion. The Python 2.4 distro is= built with VS.NET (2003, I think). HTTPD is built with MSVC 6. Subversion= tries to link with both. So right now, we're stuck with either providing= only Python 2.3 bindings, or not being able to use an HTTPD from the= apache.org installer... Yes - I see Python 2.3 / Mod Perl 5.8 / Apache 2.0 / APR 0.9 / etc all in the same 'generation' of code. Do you want the ASF to be a leader of this 'breakage' as the Python project was? This is why the push back. =20 And I hope for Python 2.4 / Apache 2.2 / APR 2.0 / etc to all be of the next 'generation', finally adopting msvcr70. Seem rational? =20