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From "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>
Subject Re: RFC use APR's getpass() instead of native getpass() on HP-UX?
Date Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:52:01 GMT
At 11:09 AM 12/3/2004, Jeff Trawick wrote:
>On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:30:43 +0000, Joe Orton <jorton@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 09:36:32AM -0500, Jeff Trawick wrote:
>> 
>> > HP-UX apparently has no other function than getpass(), and it silently
>> > truncates after 8 characters.  There are Apache httpd and Subversion
>> > users grappling with this limit.  (It caused a some puzzlement for me
>> > with cvs too, but APR won't help that ;) )
>> >
>> > The hint from Joe is to set ac_cv_func_getpass=no before running
>> > configure.  A nicer way would be to add a configure option such as
>> > --enable-apr-getpass.  But why not avoid the system getpass() by
>> > default?  Is maintaining compatibility with limitations of other
>> > applications on the same system preferable to breaking compatibility
>> > with the same application used on different systems with different
>> > native capabilities?
>
>is this an accurate understanding?
>
>the migration problem comes with the subversion-type usage scenario;
>user thinks password is 10 characters; actual stored password on
>server (HP-UX) was truncated at 8 characters; user upgrades APR on
>HP-UX client and now the passwords don't match when user continues to
>enter 10 characters; if server wasn't HP-UX or client wasn't HP-UX, it
>never would have worked to begin with; when both are HP-UX, client has
>to now be aware that they only thought their password was 10
>characters, and it was really 8
>
>with the Apache httpd (htpasswd) testcase, the discrepancy would
>already have been noted since the long password entered on the web
>browser dialog would never have matched; so no migration concern

Yes.  Now the question becomes, do we fix?  Since it changes the
expectations, my thought is;

1. optionally disable in 0.9, 1.x APR.  Put this in README.
2. automatically disable in 2.0 APR. 


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